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Learning about the Church Fathers?
« on: April 20, 2017, 11:17:05 PM »
If I want to learn more about the Early Church Fathers and about the 'patristics' in general, do you have any good resources? 

Preferably not something encyclopedia-like, but something that can be read and is pretty digestible.

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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 05:27:14 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/When-Church-Was-Young-Fathers/dp/1616367776/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1492766611&sr=8-2

This might be too light but at least it will give a sense of who they were. I have the audible version but I haven't listened to it yet.
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 04:57:03 PM »
In conclusion, I can leave you with no better advice than that given after every sermon by Msgr Vincent Giammarino, who was pastor of St Michael’s Church in Atlantic City in the 1950s:

    “My dear good people: Do what you have to do, When you’re supposed to do it, The best way you can do it,   For the Love of God. Amen.”
 

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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 05:11:18 PM »
There's really no substitute for reading what they had to say, and you should work towards that. Failing that, one can get most things in translation.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ante-Nicene_Fathers
You can also get the complete set in print, although it can be a bit pricy. I had the whole thing, but then I loaned my Volume 8 to someone who moved away before returning it.  :(

I'd also recommend A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs, by David Bercot. This can be used as something of an index to the full ANF or as a stand alone book. It is a collection of quotations from the ANF (barring things like the Gospel of Thomas) ordered according to subject. I love it.
https://www.amazon.ca/Dictionary-Early-Christian-Beliefs/dp/1565633571

In addition, and even less expensive, is one of my favourite books on church history, Would the Real Heretics Please Stand Up, also by Bercot. This too quotes extensively from the ANF and investigates what the Church looked like in the years before Constantine and how those who personally knew the apostles interpreted their teachings.
https://www.amazon.ca/Will-Real-Heretics-Please-Stand/dp/0924722002/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5FFK8A7DN5GEP78JG0K2 
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 05:30:57 PM »
CCEL might be a good place to start looking:

https://www.ccel.org/
 

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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 05:32:22 PM »
I actually ended up acquiring (by chance?) the Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers collection.  So, now I just need to read 'em all.

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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 06:33:53 PM »
I actually ended up acquiring (by chance?) the Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers collection.  So, now I just need to read 'em all.

:lol:

You lucky duck.
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 08:28:07 PM »
I actually ended up acquiring (by chance?) the Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers collection.  So, now I just need to read 'em all.

:lol:

You lucky duck.

Buck a volume, so, yeah, very lucky.  :^)
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 01:04:06 PM »
In case you didn't go to the old SD thread that Lynne suggested it has a link to all the writings of the Fathers on this New Advent page.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 01:57:36 PM »
I believe if you want to learn the in's and out's of the Fathers, their authority, and so forth a great source is The Manual of Patrology published in 1899, here it is on the Internet Archives
https://archive.org/details/manualofpatrolog00schmuoft by Rev Bernard Schmid.

There are many reprints of the book available as well


A long time ago I published a few extracts from the books that dealt with understanding how to approach the Fathers, you can listen to it here:
http://www.alleluiaaudiobooks.com/catholic-audiobook-the-authority-of-the-fathers/
https://www.amazon.com/Manual-Patrology-Classic-Reprint-Bernard/dp/B00962FJGI

I have thought about recording more of it, but have not yet done it.

The book had a massive impact on my understanding on Patristics and on the teachings of Saints especially when presented to me by a third party (IE listening to a homily over the internet). 
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Re: Learning about the Church Fathers?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 07:02:30 PM »
I actually ended up acquiring (by chance?) the Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers collection.  So, now I just need to read 'em all.

:lol:

You lucky duck.

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Buck a volume, so, yeah, very lucky.  :^)
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