This Forum and Mary, Queen of Heaven

[Insanis]

Insanis,
for what its worth, I agree with D.L. Its time to change your approach.

You agree with his personal accusations and presumptions?

What exactly should I change about myself? Lessen devotion? Accept more blasphemy? Stay silent in the face of errors? Tell Mary I saw insults and accusations against her, and I said nothing to keep some sort of civil peace between the people making the accusations and myself just to please others?

When I joined this forum, I saw a massive number of Covid and vaccine threads started. Did you and others make the same accusations and protests then that you do now about devotion to Jesus through Mary being defended?

I am not going to let these things be normalized.

[Michael Wilson]

I don't think this is doing you any good spiritually or Gerard either. Maybe give it a rest for a week and see if that does't help.

[Insanis]

If these issues had been ended before, then there would be no need to address them, but they have been here for a long time apparently and they came to light to me soon after joining.

As long as they exist, which they shouldn't, I am going to protest it.

If I were a moderator, I'd just ban offenders and lock offensive threads and it would be a non-issue, but as long as they are allowed to stick around on a Catholic forum, there should be no tolerance and posting is the only thing we can do on a forum.

So what else should I do? Using the forum for its intended purpose is not objectionable. If my posts are "offensive", then what about the blasphemies and personal insults and accusations of every sort? Where were you then?

There is an entire thread attacking me, yet, where were you then?

You rebuke me, but accept all that.

How are you not a part of the problem?

[Insanis]

I don't think this is doing you any good spiritually or Gerard either. Maybe give it a rest for a week and see if that does't help.

I am doing well spiritually.

Why would I give up? These errors have been going on for years apparently.

If I give it up, it will be on this forum for good. I intended to join a Catholic forum for discussion and fellowship with Catholics.

[DigitalLogos]

If these issues had been ended before, then there would be no need to address them, but they have been here for a long time apparently and they came to light to me soon after joining.

As long as they exist, which they shouldn't, I am going to protest it.

If I were a moderator, I'd just ban offenders and lock offensive threads and it would be a non-issue, but as long as they are allowed to stick around on a Catholic forum, there should be no tolerance and posting is the only thing we can do on a forum.

So what else should I do? Using the forum for its intended purpose is not objectionable. If my posts are "offensive", then what about the blasphemies and personal insults and accusations of every sort? Where were you then?

There is an entire thread attacking me, yet, where were you then?

You rebuke me, but accept all that.

How are you not a part of the problem?

That is one thread. And it was wrong of that person to single you out. But, you have continued to post numerous threads on the same topic directed at the same two people. It isn't so much your message (again, I agree with you), but your angle, which is just poor forum etiquette.

Banning is a double-edged sword. While their controversial opinions and threads could, and should, be regulated; your spamming the forum would be justifiably bannable as well. And recall, they have been both placed on bans for their erroneous opinions.

It might be best to just step away from the conversation and allow others to try and tackle it from the authority of the Church. "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet." - Matt. 10:14.

[Insanis]

but your angle, which is just poor forum etiquette.

This is not a typical forum issue. "Forum etiquette" has been breached from the get-go. Nobody cares about that here.

Banning is a double-edged sword. While their controversial opinions and threads could, and should, be regulated; your spamming the forum would be justifiably bannable as well. And recall, they have been both placed on bans for their erroneous opinions.

Solutions are needed. And it isn't "spamming" to use the forum for what is intended. This forum has more covid/vaccine threads started than I have total.

It might be best to just step away from the conversation and allow others to try and tackle it from the authority of the Church. "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet." - Matt. 10:14.

That is a possibility, but I think the forum can be restored. These were not issues that were present in the past. They are relatively new and they shouldn't be tolerated.

[DigitalLogos]

Banning is a double-edged sword. While their controversial opinions and threads could, and should, be regulated; your spamming the forum would be justifiably bannable as well. And recall, they have been both placed on bans for their erroneous opinions.

Solutions are needed. And it isn't "spamming" to use the forum for what is intended. This forum has more covid/vaccine threads started than I have total.

Yes, there are a lot of Covid threads. But, are they all by the same person? No. Therein lies the problem.

That's really all the more I'm going to say about it. I'll take Our Lord's wisdom and exit the conversation. God bless.

[Gerard]

I don't think this is doing you any good spiritually or Gerard either. Maybe give it a rest for a week and see if that does't help.

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If I give it up, it will be on this forum for good. I intended to join a Catholic forum for discussion and fellowship with Catholics.

This seems to part of the M.O. 

I'm perfectly willing to take a break from it all.  I was bound and determined to defend myself from false assertions and lies from our little "woke" crowd and then Rosarium/Paeniteo/Inanus came along and dialed everything up to 11. 

But from perusing the threads, it looks like he's gotten beyond the point of overreach and now he's picking fights with everyone. 

I saw this fitting comment from back in 2013:

quote from Heinrich:

Quote from: Ben on February 04, 2013, 07:33:16 PM

I suspect Rosarium won't go over to CathInfo. And he left this forum for some reason.

Now that would be something! But he would join just to say he was leaving.

https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=1008.0

I'm feeling sorry for this guy because he seems to be stuck in a loop. 

[Insanis]

Yes, there are a lot of Covid threads. But, are they all by the same person? No. Therein lies the problem.

Actually, when I joined they were.

[Insanis]

I'm feeling sorry for this guy because he seems to be stuck in a loop.

Yes, in 2013ish, I stopped using forums.

I admitted I used to use forums but stopped for years in my introduction. This isn't a loop.

I'm perfectly willing to take a break from it all.  I was bound and determined to defend myself from false assertions and lies from our little "woke" crowd and then Rosarium/Paeniteo/Inanus came along and dialed everything up to 11.

Your vulgarity is disgusting on its own.

[Gerard]

I'm feeling sorry for this guy because he seems to be stuck in a loop.

Yes, in 2013ish, I stopped using forums.

I admitted I used to use forums but stopped for years in my introduction. This isn't a loop.

You missed it completely.  This is sad.   

I'm perfectly willing to take a break from it all.  I was bound and determined to defend myself from false assertions and lies from our little "woke" crowd and then Rosarium/Paeniteo/Inanus came along and dialed everything up to 11.

Your vulgarity is disgusting on its own.

I'm just feeling sorry for you now.  I'm going to keep praying for you. 

[Insanis]

It is not just me you know.

I am willing to refute the errors and expose the blasphemies and show they shouldn't be tolerated. And I am willing to to accept the personal abuse, but I am not speaking for myself. There is a higher purpose.

Anyway, the end is nigh.

[Gerard]

It is not just me you know.

I am willing to refute the errors and expose the blasphemies and show they shouldn't be tolerated. And I am willing to to accept the personal abuse, but I am not speaking for myself. There is a higher purpose.

Anyway, the end is nigh.

As I stated, I'll keep praying for you.  I think you need prayer at this point.

[Philip G.]

It is not just me you know.

I am willing to refute the errors and expose the blasphemies and show they shouldn't be tolerated. And I am willing to to accept the personal abuse, but I am not speaking for myself. There is a higher purpose.

Anyway, the end is nigh.

As I stated, I'll keep praying for you.  I think you need prayer at this point.

I will indulge the advice of the beloved disciple and earthly recipient of the Virgin Mary upon Our Lord's departure, St. John, who said, and I am not quoting, that there are some whom we should not pray for.   

[Kaesekopf]

It is not just me you know.

I am willing to refute the errors and expose the blasphemies and show they shouldn't be tolerated. And I am willing to to accept the personal abuse, but I am not speaking for myself. There is a higher purpose.

Anyway, the end is nigh.

As I stated, I'll keep praying for you.  I think you need prayer at this point.

I will indulge the advice of the beloved disciple and earthly recipient of the Virgin Mary upon Our Lord's departure, St. John, who said, and I am not quoting, that there are some whom we should not pray for.

Letting "points-scoring" in an argument get in the way of an authentic Christian expression? 

Take two weeks off for uncharitable posting.