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Title: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 27, 2021, 05:32:10 PM
Are there any Catholic Fashion Designers that embrace Tradition?
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: diaduit on January 27, 2021, 06:35:17 PM
Quote from: Blue Violet on January 27, 2021, 05:32:10 PM
Are there any Catholic Fashion Designers that embrace Tradition?

Someone posted a link to a website in France I think...it was very recent.  If I find it I'll post the link.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: ralfy on January 27, 2021, 09:49:17 PM
Just practice modesty. For some countries, the quick rule of thumb is at least work clothes and uniforms.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 27, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
Quote from: ralfy on January 27, 2021, 09:49:17 PM
Just practice modesty. For some countries, the quick rule of thumb is at least work clothes and uniforms.

I do this, but this doesn't answer my question.  I was just asking if you knew of any Catholic Fashion Designers who embrace Tradition and their work.  Do you know of any?
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: james03 on January 28, 2021, 07:48:17 AM
Isn't there a chick section on this forum?

I find this very triggering.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: dymphnaw on January 28, 2021, 02:02:17 PM
Not that I know of. Just practice modesty. It's not that hard. You don't need to imitate the Amish or or the Menonites. I shop from many different sources but I don't buy mini skirts, sheer tops, plunging necklines, slitted skirts or leggings.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Daniel on January 28, 2021, 03:41:33 PM
Is this question about practicing modesty, or about the existence of traditional Catholic fashion designers?


With regard to the latter:

My first guess was yes, there probably are some traditional Catholic fashion designers out there. Because there are plenty of traditional Catholic designers of other things (e.g. photographers, graphic designers, web designers, layout, video, etc.), so why not fashion?

But on second thought, I can certainly see why there may be an absence of traditional Catholics among the fashion industry: fashion isn't something that trad men are particularly drawn to. So very few (if any) trad men would pursue fashion as a career. And as for the trad women, they generally get married and raise children rather than pursuing a career.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Lynne on January 28, 2021, 04:15:11 PM
The member, queen.saints has posted on topics similar to this,

https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25042.msg523188#msg523188 (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25042.msg523188#msg523188)

Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: diaduit on January 28, 2021, 05:11:46 PM
Thats the one.  Thanks Lynne, I couldn't remember where I saw it or what name to search under.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: The Harlequin King on January 28, 2021, 05:47:36 PM
I have a couple of trad friends who design or tailor men's suits. Sure.

It would be difficult to find a trad designer of runway fashion, but I suppose there might be one or two somewhere in Italy or something. Especially if they come from old money.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: ralfy on January 28, 2021, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: Blue Violet on January 27, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
I do this, but this doesn't answer my question.  I was just asking if you knew of any Catholic Fashion Designers who embrace Tradition and their work.  Do you know of any?

There are some given here, but I don't think it's what you have in mind:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/t-magazine/fashion/catholic-designers-palomo-spain-dilara-findikoglu-vaquera.html

Given that, you're probably better off looking at books and articles about modesty. Here are guides some with several links to blogs and books:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-blessed-virgins-guide-to-catholic-modesty

https://tradcatfem.com/2017/06/21/summer-heatwave-keep-cool-and-stay-modest/

The gist is that clothes that are loose-fitting and cover enough of the body without making the wearer uncomfortable due to weather conditions can be found in various stores.

Some of the advice is actually similar to guides for work clothes:

https://www.amazon.com/Work-Clothes-Chic-Simple-Serious/dp/0679447164


Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 29, 2021, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: Daniel on January 28, 2021, 03:41:33 PM
Is this question about practicing modesty, or about the existence of traditional Catholic fashion designers?


The existence of traditional Catholic fashion designers.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 29, 2021, 12:40:40 AM
Quote from: Lynne on January 28, 2021, 04:15:11 PM
The member, queen.saints has posted on topics similar to this,

https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25042.msg523188#msg523188 (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25042.msg523188#msg523188)

Thank you for this.  That blue dress is very pretty.  I think this is what I may be looking for.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 29, 2021, 01:11:43 AM
Quote from: ralfy on January 28, 2021, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: Blue Violet on January 27, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
I do this, but this doesn't answer my question.  I was just asking if you knew of any Catholic Fashion Designers who embrace Tradition and their work.  Do you know of any?

There are some given here, but I don't think it's what you have in mind:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/t-magazine/fashion/catholic-designers-palomo-spain-dilara-findikoglu-vaquera.html

Given that, you're probably better off looking at books and articles about modesty. Here are guides some with several links to blogs and books:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-blessed-virgins-guide-to-catholic-modesty

https://tradcatfem.com/2017/06/21/summer-heatwave-keep-cool-and-stay-modest/

The gist is that clothes that are loose-fitting and cover enough of the body without making the wearer uncomfortable due to weather conditions can be found in various stores.

Some of the advice is actually similar to guides for work clothes:

https://www.amazon.com/Work-Clothes-Chic-Simple-Serious/dp/0679447164

These aren't what I had in mind, but the New York Times article was somewhat close to what I was looking for(however one designer was a Muslim and I'm not sure if the other designers are traditional Catholics though) and the other two were still informative.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Elizabeth.2 on January 29, 2021, 01:47:18 PM
The Italian Gemelli Rosary Collection video ads would be a place to start.  Super elegant; they would know.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: dymphnaw on January 29, 2021, 02:51:27 PM
Do you mean high fashion or niche dressmakers like the designers who cater to the Orthodox Jewish, Mormon, Muslim and Pentecostal markets? There is no high fashion designer who is openly traditional Catholic. Such a person wouldn't be allowed to show their collections in Paris or New York. I'm not sure traditional Catholics are numerous or tight knit enough for a traditional niche designer to make a living.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on January 29, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth.2 on January 29, 2021, 01:47:18 PM
The Italian Gemelli Rosary Collection video ads would be a place to start.  Super elegant; they would know.

Ok, thank you.  I'll look into that.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: queen.saints on January 29, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Paris Bloom is run by two traditional Catholic sisters and they design all the dresses.

https://parisbloom.com/
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Maximilian on January 29, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: queen.saints on January 29, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Paris Bloom is run by two traditional Catholic sisters and they design all the dresses.

https://parisbloom.com/

I recognize those models!
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: queen.saints on January 30, 2021, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: Maximilian on January 29, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: queen.saints on January 29, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Paris Bloom is run by two traditional Catholic sisters and they design all the dresses.

https://parisbloom.com/

I recognize those models!

Haha, yes.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Gerard on February 02, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Colleen Hammond may have some leads. 


https://colleenhammond.com/
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on February 04, 2021, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: queen.saints on January 29, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Paris Bloom is run by two traditional Catholic sisters and they design all the dresses.

https://parisbloom.com/

Thank you for the website.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on February 04, 2021, 11:39:09 PM
Quote from: Gerard on February 02, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Colleen Hammond may have some leads. 


https://colleenhammond.com/

Although this isn't what I was looking, her website looks promising..  Thank you for this.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: Blue Violet on February 12, 2021, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: dymphnaw on January 29, 2021, 02:51:27 PM
Do you mean high fashion or niche dressmakers like the designers who cater to the Orthodox Jewish, Mormon, Muslim and Pentecostal markets? There is no high fashion designer who is openly traditional Catholic. Such a person wouldn't be allowed to show their collections in Paris or New York. I'm not sure traditional Catholics are numerous or tight knit enough for a traditional niche designer to make a living.

I think I mean high fashion.  You mentioned that a high fashion designer who is openly Traditional Catholic wouldn't be allowed to show their collections in Paris or New York.  Do you have any specific examples of this occurring or is it based on how the culture at large will prevent such a person from entering the fashion arena?
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: dymphnaw on February 12, 2021, 08:52:54 PM
 
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I think I mean high fashion.  You mentioned that a high fashion designer who is openly Traditional Catholic wouldn't be allowed to show their collections in Paris or New York.  Do you have any specific examples of this occurring or is it based on how the culture at large will prevent such a person from entering the fashion arena?
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A open traditional Catholic would not be able to survive in such a heavily gay profession without making someone angry. Balenciaga, Givenchy, Lagerfeld, St. Laurent, Cardin, McQueen, Versace, Dolce and Gabana, Tom Ford, Kors, and pretty much all the greats were or are gay. Not to mention all the immodesty. Models are nearly naked in between quick changes and drug use and sex trafficking is common in the industry.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: lauermar on March 12, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
There's no fashion problem that can't be solved by wearing a tunic, long cardigan or duster coat over any outfit you want.  When you get home, remove the coat. It's OK around family. That's what I do. You don't need a Little House On The Prairie costume, a Burhka, or an Amish uniform.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: ralfy on March 12, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
In general, office attire and uniforms.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on March 12, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: lauermar on March 12, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
There's no fashion problem that can't be solved by wearing a tunic, long cardigan or duster coat over any outfit you want.  When you get home, remove the coat. It's OK around family. That's what I do. You don't need a Little House On The Prairie costume, a Burhka, or an Amish uniform.

Are you under the impression that immodest clothing is OK around family? That is not true.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on March 12, 2021, 08:45:17 PM
Quote from: queen.saints on January 29, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Paris Bloom is run by two traditional Catholic sisters and they design all the dresses.

https://parisbloom.com/

Two traditional sisters? That is pretty pathetic. Only one dress on that entire site is actually modest. What a wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: lauermar on March 15, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on March 12, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: lauermar on March 12, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
There's no fashion problem that can't be solved by wearing a tunic, long cardigan or duster coat over any outfit you want.  When you get home, remove the coat. It's OK around family. That's what I do. You don't need a Little House On The Prairie costume, a Burhka, or an Amish uniform.

Are you under the impression that immodest clothing is OK around family? That is not true.

For heaven's sake we've seen each other naked over the years.  I've had to administer soap suds bucket enemas when they were sick. I was educated as a nurse. If I see anything I haven't already seen, I'll shoot it.

Seeing me in a pair of skinny jeans or a swimsuit is more covered than nudity.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on March 15, 2021, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: lauermar on March 15, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on March 12, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: lauermar on March 12, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
There's no fashion problem that can't be solved by wearing a tunic, long cardigan or duster coat over any outfit you want.  When you get home, remove the coat. It's OK around family. That's what I do. You don't need a Little House On The Prairie costume, a Burhka, or an Amish uniform.

Are you under the impression that immodest clothing is OK around family? That is not true.

For heaven's sake we've seen each other naked over the years.  I've had to administer soap suds bucket enemas when they were sick. I was educated as a nurse. If I see anything I haven't already seen, I'll shoot it.

Seeing me in a pair of skinny jeans or a swimsuit is more covered than nudity.

If I was married to a gynecologist, I wonder what you think would be appropriate attire at home...if "seeing it before" is our standard for what is acceptable for public viewing. What a silly argument.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: dymphnaw on March 16, 2021, 01:54:53 PM

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Two traditional sisters? That is pretty pathetic. Only one dress on that entire site is actually modest. What a wasted opportunity.
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I didnt see anything immodest on the site. I just thought the dresses were ugly.
Title: Re: Catholic Traditionalist Fashion Designers
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on March 16, 2021, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: dymphnaw on March 16, 2021, 01:54:53 PM


Two traditional sisters? That is pretty pathetic. Only one dress on that entire site is actually modest. What a wasted opportunity.
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I didnt see anything immodest on the site. I just thought the dresses were ugly.
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According to the Marylike standards laid out by the Holy Father, all but one are immodest. Skirts too short, sleeves barely there, and pretty clingy fabric. You are right though, they are also pretty ugly and lack any imagination.