Lay Third Orders

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maryslittlegarden

June 28, 2013, 09:11:41 AM
Anybody out there a member  Secular/Lay Third Order?  Something like the Carmelites or Franciscans. I'm thinking/discerning about becoming a Third Order Franciscan, not sure how traditional some of the groups might be.
For a Child is born to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace

Lynne

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June 28, 2013, 10:12:16 AM
I'll be watching this thread because I'd like to join a Lay Third Order too but I'm thinking most of them are moon-batty...
In conclusion, I can leave you with no better advice than that given after every sermon by Msgr Vincent Giammarino, who was pastor of St Michael's Church in Atlantic City in the 1950s:

    "My dear good people: Do what you have to do, When you're supposed to do it, The best way you can do it,   For the Love of God. Amen"

maryslittlegarden

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June 28, 2013, 10:14:52 AM
That is what I'm afraid of- especially with the Franciscans.  I love St Francis and St Clare, but they tend to attract some oddballs (maybe myself included.)
For a Child is born to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace

Lynne

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June 28, 2013, 10:29:30 AM
Quote from: maryslittlegarden on June 28, 2013, 10:14:52 AM
That is what I'm afraid of- especially with the Franciscans.  I love St Francis and St Clare, but they tend to attract some oddballs (maybe myself included.)

:laugh:
In conclusion, I can leave you with no better advice than that given after every sermon by Msgr Vincent Giammarino, who was pastor of St Michael's Church in Atlantic City in the 1950s:

    "My dear good people: Do what you have to do, When you're supposed to do it, The best way you can do it,   For the Love of God. Amen"

tradne4163

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June 28, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: maryslittlegarden on June 28, 2013, 09:11:41 AM
Anybody out there a member  Secular/Lay Third Order?  Something like the Carmelites or Franciscans. I'm thinking/discerning about becoming a Third Order Franciscan, not sure how traditional some of the groups might be.
I used to be T.O. SSPX, but am kind of in limbo on that. My postulancy is over, but I've never been able to get to a Society priest to make a full profession (i live a long way from any of their chapels). I still received the only newsletter sent out in the roughly year and a half I've been on the rolls.

To the topic at hand, if you happen to live in NY, the Franciscans of the Immaculate have a Third Order. I believe there is also one associated with the Morgan Capuchins (SSPX affiliated).
Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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nmoerbeek

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June 29, 2013, 10:13:28 PM Last Edit: June 29, 2013, 10:24:02 PM by nmoerbeek
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have! 
"Let me, however, beg of Your Beatitude...
not to think so much of what I have written, as of my good and kind intentions. Please look for the truths of which I speak rather than for beauty of expression. Where I do not come up to your expectations, pardon me, and put my shortcomings down, please, to lack of time and stress of business." St. Bonaventure, From the Preface of Holiness of Life.

Apostolate:
http://www.alleluiaaudiobooks.com/
Contributor:
http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/
Lay Association:
http://www.militiatempli.net/

Jayne

#6
June 30, 2013, 04:46:54 PM
I'm a member of an unofficial lay Franciscan group.  Our rule is based on a traditional Third Order one rather the official (and modern) Secular Franciscans.  Technically I am still a Secular Franciscan but I was finding it too liberal so I was glad when we moved away from that area to have an excuse to stop attending.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Petertherock

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June 30, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have a Third Order...

http://www.saintbenedict.com/theorder/third-order.html

Darryl
Ut In Omnibus Glorificetur Deus

"Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ." -St. Athanasius

Lynne

#8
July 01, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Petertherock on June 30, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have a Third Order...

http://www.saintbenedict.com/theorder/third-order.html

Thank you, Peter. I live about 40 miles from them! This look perfect... :)
In conclusion, I can leave you with no better advice than that given after every sermon by Msgr Vincent Giammarino, who was pastor of St Michael's Church in Atlantic City in the 1950s:

    "My dear good people: Do what you have to do, When you're supposed to do it, The best way you can do it,   For the Love of God. Amen"

zork

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July 05, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: nmoerbeek on June 29, 2013, 10:13:28 PM
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have!

I took a brief look at the website during my lunch break. It looks very interesting; I will look into it further this weekend.

One format complaint though: The background is fine as pitch black, but the menu titles on the leftmost side of the page need to be white or a much brighter colour in order to stand out.  I had to highlight the menu just to see what the listings were.
Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat.

Coastal GA Trad

#10
July 05, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Quotehttp://www.militiatempli.net/

That does look like an amazing religious order. Are there any organizations like this that aren't affiliated with the Indult?
What is left there to do? My dear brethren, (...) I think I can say that we need to make a crusade based on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, leaning on the invincible rock and that inexhaustible source of grace which is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass."

His Grace Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, sermon  on his jubilee in 1979.


I am a traditional Catholic and a Royalist in Coastal Georgia.

"O Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and our own most gentle Queen and Mother, look down in mercy upon England, thy Dowry, and upon us all who greatly hope and trust in thee. Through thee it was that Jesus our Saviour and our Hope was given unto the world; and he hath given thee to us that we might hope still more. Plead for us thy children, whom thou didst receive and accept at the foot of the Cross, O sorrowful Mother. Intercede for our separated English brethren, that they may be united with us in the one true Fold. Pray for us all, dear Mother, that by faith fruitful in good works, we may all deserve to see and praise God together with thee in our heavenly home. Amen."- Prayer for the Conversion of England.

nmoerbeek

#11
July 06, 2013, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: vakarian on July 05, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: nmoerbeek on June 29, 2013, 10:13:28 PM
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have!

I took a brief look at the website during my lunch break. It looks very interesting; I will look into it further this weekend.

One format complaint though: The background is fine as pitch black, but the menu titles on the leftmost side of the page need to be white or a much brighter colour in order to stand out.  I had to highlight the menu just to see what the listings were.

Thank you for the suggestion!
"Let me, however, beg of Your Beatitude...
not to think so much of what I have written, as of my good and kind intentions. Please look for the truths of which I speak rather than for beauty of expression. Where I do not come up to your expectations, pardon me, and put my shortcomings down, please, to lack of time and stress of business." St. Bonaventure, From the Preface of Holiness of Life.

Apostolate:
http://www.alleluiaaudiobooks.com/
Contributor:
http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/
Lay Association:
http://www.militiatempli.net/

AnneTce

#12
July 12, 2020, 11:43:18 AM
Is there a new link for The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

Miriam_M

#13
July 12, 2020, 12:54:53 PM
https://www.society-sacred-heart.org/

The Institute has said that technically it's not a "Third Order," but it actually functions just like one, i.m.o.  Daily requirements/expectations, including the Office, Mass or spiritual communion, other aspects of a Rule, yearly retreat, and connection with a men's apostolic order. 

Probably the yearly retreat was not held this year, for obvious reasons.

Miriam_M

#14
July 12, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
Correction.  Apparently they did have a Retreat this year.  Don't have time to investigate whether it was online.  (Probably)  Conferences listed here:

https://www.society-sacred-heart.org/resources.html
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