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I'm hoping neither of them actually have it and that they are allowing themselves the option of a 14 day rest off the campaign trail as the ongoing governing of the country must certainly be taking its toll on the President. Let his minions get out there and stump for him on TV, much better if they can also provide commentary to acts of civil unrest. TV ads will also begin to run in earnest right about now and I'm sure both sides have a surprise or two up their sleeves to run any day now.
May the Holy Guardian Angels of the President and First Lady keep and protect them from sickness and all forms of personal and political malice.
St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.
I am not sure he even has it. This is the man who wrote The Art of the Deal. Trump understands persuasion and show business. Like me, he is extreme sneaky and dishonest and lies his ass off whenever necessary.
If he carries on being the President with Covid, like it is nothing to him, thereby stressing he is "Iron Trump", the bestest fittest biglyest president ever, and Joe Biden is a puny little masked up geriatric dork hiding in his basement frightened of a virus that Trump just shrugs off, this is great image management for his final weeks of campaigning.
Those debates were going nowhere and were of no value to Trump. He is already President. Why lower himself to be attacked by Biden and the moderator?
Americans love tough leaders. This shows he is tough. Has Coronavirus and just gets up and goes to work. Since he is President he is an essential worker and can easily quarantine himself on the move and even speak at events being a glass screen. They just bubble off a part of Airforce 1 and he gets on with it.
Trump having Covid will actually increase the media attention on him and thus take it away from Biden. Which is what he did to Hillary.
If he is asymptomatic and does not take to his bed, but carries on regardless, then I would very strongly suspect he does not have Covid at all. It is impossible to prove, so we will never know. Since you can catch it twice it does not prove he did not have it even if he gets it again.
You'll never see his Tax records or his Medical records. So he can take the secret to the grave with him.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 07:22:59 AM
I am not sure he even has it. This is the man who wrote The Art of the Deal. Trump understands persuasion and show business. Like me, he is extreme sneaky and dishonest and lies his ass off whenever necessary.
If he carries on being the President with Covid, like it is nothing to him, thereby stressing he is "Iron Trump", the bestest fittest biglyest president ever, and Joe Biden is a puny little masked up geriatric dork hiding in his basement frightened of a virus that Trump just shrugs off, this is great image management for his final weeks of campaigning.
Those debates were going nowhere and were of no value to Trump. He is already President. Why lower himself to be attacked by Biden and the moderator?
Americans love tough leaders. This shows he is tough. Has Coronavirus and just gets up and goes to work. Since he is President he is an essential worker and can easily quarantine himself on the move and even speak at events being a glass screen. They just bubble off a part of Airforce 1 and he gets on with it.
Trump having Covid will actually increase the media attention on him and thus take it away from Biden. Which is what he did to Hillary.
If he is asymptomatic and does not take to his bed, but carries on regardless, then I would very strongly suspect he does not have Covid at all. It is impossible to prove, so we will never know. Since you can catch it twice it does not prove he did not have it even if he gets it again.
You'll never see his Tax records or his Medical records. So he can take the secret to the grave with him.
Exactly.
Since the Lying Leftist Scum made such a big deal out of the virus, the pandemic, the lockdown, and everything else that could be possibly added up to the fear and sympathy pile, they will need to tread carefully in their reporting.
Master stroke move. Let's see if it pans out.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 07:22:59 AM
I am not sure he even has it. This is the man who wrote The Art of the Deal. Trump understands persuasion and show business. Like me, he is extreme sneaky and dishonest and lies his ass off whenever necessary.
If he carries on being the President with Covid, like it is nothing to him, thereby stressing he is "Iron Trump", the bestest fittest biglyest president ever, and Joe Biden is a puny little masked up geriatric dork hiding in his basement frightened of a virus that Trump just shrugs off, this is great image management for his final weeks of campaigning.
Those debates were going nowhere and were of no value to Trump. He is already President. Why lower himself to be attacked by Biden and the moderator?
Americans love tough leaders. This shows he is tough. Has Coronavirus and just gets up and goes to work. Since he is President he is an essential worker and can easily quarantine himself on the move and even speak at events being a glass screen. They just bubble off a part of Airforce 1 and he gets on with it.
Trump having Covid will actually increase the media attention on him and thus take it away from Biden. Which is what he did to Hillary.
If he is asymptomatic and does not take to his bed, but carries on regardless, then I would very strongly suspect he does not have Covid at all. It is impossible to prove, so we will never know. Since you can catch it twice it does not prove he did not have it even if he gets it again.
You'll never see his Tax records or his Medical records. So he can take the secret to the grave with him.
These are my thoughts as well. Furthermore, how can Biden say Trump doesn't care about the virus (when of his biggest critiques, even if its an empty one) when Trump, and not Biden, got and plowed through it like nothing.
I hope he has it, but proves that he can get rid of it with hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
I'm hoping he gave it to Biden at the debate.
Quote from: red solo cup on October 02, 2020, 10:27:51 AM
I'm hoping he gave it to Biden at the debate.
Nice! ::)
(or Chris Wallace)
Trump will go the road of Boris Johnson without potentially the hospitalization. And, by that I mean that just as Boris pushed back early on against the plandemic, after he got the virus, he no longer pushed back against the agenda at all. Trump getting the virus will serve his policy advancement in the same fashion. That is my prediction.
I'm sorry, Philip. I don't understand you. What do you mean by "policy advancement" in this case?
Quote from: red solo cup on October 02, 2020, 10:27:51 AM
I'm hoping he gave it to Biden at the debate.
He could write a new book.
The Fart of the Kill.
Quote from: Miriam_M on October 02, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
I'm sorry, Philip. I don't understand you. What do you mean by "policy advancement" in this case?
Going full NWO as soon as he's re-elected? I'm not sure if that's what Philip meant, but the parallels with Boris Johnson are right there.
Both were elected to save conservatism. Both held out initially against forceful Covid lockdowns (Boris Johnson wouldn't wear a mask at first either). Both get Covid. Boris then goes full NWO on Covid lockdowns and is looking more like a meglomaniac by the day. His transition from bumbling toff and friend of the people to table thumping authoritarian has been remarkable.
So I'm putting my name to the prediction that Trump will use his positive Covid test to suddenly become a great supporter of seriously stringent and oppressive anti Covid lockdowns and other measures, once he is re-elected.
If he was going full NWO why wait 4 years?
Why all the fuss and stress?
The NWO and elites hate Trump precisely because he is a loose cannon.
He is not on our side or their side. He's just doing whatever he damned well likes and so far it is pissing the NWO off massively and I am phucking loving watching their pain.
He is literally God's fly in the ointment. A complete ego-maniac in the White House. It is great.
We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US. I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.
The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other. Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time. But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.
So why wait 4 years?
What has Trump gained by waiting 4 years just to flip?
Boris did not turn. Boris was always an opportunist with zero principles.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
So why wait 4 years?
Boris did not turn. Boris was always a opportunist with zero principles.
Because it wasn't time until now for the NWO roll-out to begin? There's no reason on earth why it should have started 4 years ago.
Boris Johnson was elected on a massive 80 seat majority because legions of betrayed Labour Party supporter trusted him to safeguard their interests. He was also elected as the hope of Brexiteers because of his promise to "get Brexit done". You should go to the comments section of the Telegraph to find out what many of those who voted for Boris think of him now. They are raging at his betrayal over the Covid lockdowns and are calling for insurrection, or some of them are.
Boris has turned from a charming, bumbling toff who seemed to genuinely like the public into a increasingly nasty, ferret-eyed bully. The mask has come off. It's incredible. I've never seen such a transformation.
I know people who voted for Boris after a lifetime of voting Labour and they are beside themselves. Boris has done what Trump is going to do. They've both sold the public an image, but it's just a mask.
The people who voted for him are total idiots. Initially he was pro-Eu. He only turned pro-Brexit when he thought it would be better for his career.
I was on the record at the time as were other conservatives denouncing him as a treacherous opportunist rat and telling people not to vote or vote Brexit if they could.
I voted Labour just to stick the knife into my local woke Tory MP.
I trust my political instincts. I am far better at this than 99% of people.
Trump is nothing like Boris which is why Boris hates Trump.
If he is NWO, he waited 4 years to gain the confidence of the conservatives, a bit like a paedo who grooms families and kids for a long time before they actually pounce. He has gained the Americans confidence, he has almost a god status now and that will sway so many people towards the end goal, mark of the beast.
He is now in hospital......either he comes out very grateful for the care of the hospital and staff, thanks them for saving his life and gets behind the 'war on covid' or
he is treated with HCQ, bounces back no problem and marches into Nov 3rd like an emperor and crushes the argument for a vaccine.
If he does the first, we're in deep dodo and he is NWO, if he does the second I gladly pay you the $100.
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 02, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: Miriam_M on October 02, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
I'm sorry, Philip. I don't understand you. What do you mean by "policy advancement" in this case?
Going full NWO as soon as he's re-elected? I'm not sure if that's what Philip meant, but the parallels with Boris Johnson are right there.
Both were elected to save conservatism. Both held out initially against forceful Covid lockdowns (Boris Johnson wouldn't wear a mask at first either). Both get Covid. Boris then goes full NWO on Covid lockdowns and is looking more like a meglomaniac by the day. His transition from bumbling toff and friend of the people to table thumping authoritarian has been remarkable.
So I'm putting my name to the prediction that Trump will use his positive Covid test to suddenly become a great supporter of seriously stringent and oppressive anti Covid lockdowns and other measures, once he is re-elected.
I don't agree with the likelihood of such a scenario because of everything that Trump has shown in the past, but we shall see!
On my own part, I do not think it is faked.
I do think that it has already revealed the even truer colors of the Left. God uses circumstances to show the evil of others, including hidden evils, and this case is no exception. The Left's jubilant calls for his death, etc., and the premature rush to cancel ACB's nomination are evidence of the many ulterior motives of the Left. Look, when even Bolshevik Twitter can censor the Haters, then you know the level of their evil.
He won't even get to Critical Care stage (most do not), and he has available the best medical resources in the world, including the new Regeneron treatment.
In play acting for 5 years he has put his family at threat of harm. Any lone nut could harm them or blow up one of his hotels and kill employees.
Why on earth would a man worth several billion dollars do that? What is his motive? To be a popular right wing President for 4 years? But hated by most of the world?
He has a 3% chance of dying of Coronavirus but a 9% chance of being shot. 4 out of 45 Presidents have been killed in office.
If he goes NWO he ends up hated by the left and the right?
What is his motive?
This is like the 2nd Sister Lucy theory on steroids.
Watch this
Then consider what you are going to spend your 100 dollars on if you are right?
https://youtu.be/3TqLCFL0U28
If you want to skip to the end ( 35mins) that is the meat in the sandwich.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Watch this
Then consider what you are going to spend your 100 dollars on if you are right?
https://youtu.be/3TqLCFL0U28
If you want to skip to the end that is the meat in the sandwich.
I agree that there's a definite clear choice. But the underlying premise of the Left that I never hear anyone in the media question is the assumption that people do not have both the right and responsibility to make their own health care choices. When we want to discourage medically dangerous behavior, in the past we have engaged in massive communication about that. (Smoking is the best example. That campaign was won largely by educating the public, and much more effectively and efficiently than coercion would have achieved.)
Irrationally terrified people should quarantine themselves indefinitely, not force the globe to join them in their paralysis and perverted anti-social behavior.
But yes, Matt is making the point Greg is, and I agree with it.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Watch this
Then consider what you are going to spend your 100 dollars on if you are right?
https://youtu.be/3TqLCFL0U28
If you want to skip to the end ( 35mins) that is the meat in the sandwich.
Greg, excellent clip thank you. How many times though must I type, IF I HAD A VOTE, I WOULD VOTE TRUMP and hope for the best that he is what he says he is but I just don't think he is.
p.s.
Very scary about forced vaccinations at 18 min mark.
Then you are doomed. You will be sat in Ireland with 100 dollars of potatoes waiting to be arrested by the vaccination police and held down.
That's why Ireland is an EU slave and the British voted out of that Satanic club. We will fight them on the beaches.
At this point all we have left is hope and courage.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Watch this
Then consider what you are going to spend your 100 dollars on if you are right?
https://youtu.be/3TqLCFL0U28
If you want to skip to the end ( 35mins) that is the meat in the sandwich.
35 minutes of a layman's speculations.
It used to be Michael Davies who was the great hope of Trads. It's a pity no-one actually looked closely at his appalling scholarship.
What is it with Trads that they are so ready to accept the dodgy opinions of self appointed, lay theologians - and converts into the bargain?
The answer to that is simple.
Trads are pathetic like hobbits.
This is both our strength and our weakness. Our 4 Bishops are pathetic. Our efforts at leadership are woeful.
We make idiotic decisions and think our combined weight adds up to a hill of beans. It does not. Meanwhile God moves much bigger chess pieces on the board.
What did the hobbits do in the Lord of the Rings? Very little. Half the time they got in the way. But what character they did have played its part.
And critically, Trads bred.
In the final victory we will have our name on the wall. Some might think it should be higher. But it will be exactly where it should be.
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 03, 2020, 04:20:25 AM
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Watch this
Then consider what you are going to spend your 100 dollars on if you are right?
https://youtu.be/3TqLCFL0U28
If you want to skip to the end ( 35mins) that is the meat in the sandwich.
35 minutes of a layman's speculations.
It used to be Michael Davies who was the great hope of Trads. It's a pity no-one actually looked closely at his appalling scholarship.
What is it with Trads that they are so ready to accept the dodgy opinions of self appointed, lay theologians - and converts into the bargain?
My Mum was a convert. Fuck you!
Quote from: paul14 on October 03, 2020, 04:43:41 AM
My Mum was a convert. Fuck you!
I'm a convert.
And you're an arse.
Quote from: Greg on October 02, 2020, 09:00:29 PM
In play acting for 5 years he has put his family at threat of harm. Any lone nut could harm them or blow up one of his hotels and kill employees.
Why on earth would a man worth several billion dollars do that? What is his motive? To be a popular right wing President for 4 years? But hated by most of the world?
He has a 3% chance of dying of Coronavirus but a 9% chance of being shot. 4 out of 45 Presidents have been killed in office.
If he goes NWO he ends up hated by the left and the right?
What is his motive?
This is like the 2nd Sister Lucy theory on steroids.
Are you suggesting that Trump would turn down the possibility of becoming US president out of fear? That doesn't tie in with your assessment of his go-getting ways, does it?
You still don't get it. Trump, and Boris, are members of the elite. They may hate each other, just like Mark Antony and Octavian hated each other. But they are both on the same side, the side of the patricians verses the plebs. Julius Caesar presented himself as a 'man of the people' and it's true that he did attempt to introduce land reform which annoyed the aristos of the day. But nothing he ever did would undermine the power of the elites in any serious way.
Trump and Boris hating each other, if that's true, means nothing. CNN hating Trump means nothing if at the end of the day, the power of the elites remains intact.
Okay, so you like Trump. His personality appeals to you. But so what? At the end of the day, if Trump wins and doesn't go full NWO, you will be right. And if he wins and DOES go full NWO, you will lose your bet with diaduit.
I hope you're right and that daiduit loses. Unfortunately, I can't help thinking that if Trump really is a good guy, then he would have put a stop to all the Covid lockdown nonsense buy now, and that's just for starters.
Want to bet me 1000 quid?
If Trump goes NWO you win. If he carries on pissing them off or is killed I win.
You have let fear control you. You are making stupid decisions. I will gladly take your money and spend it on steak.
So bet.
Quote from: awkwardcustomer
Are you suggesting that Trump would turn down the possibility of becoming US president out of fear?
Fear of being hated by everyone. Sure.
Fear of having his daughter, wife, grandkids killed? Sure.
Why would he play act a part for the deep state as a double agent? What can they offer him that is worth his loved ones getting killed?
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 03:06:19 AM
Then you are doomed. You will be sat in Ireland with 100 dollars of potatoes waiting to be arrested by the vaccination police and held down.
That's why Ireland is an EU slave and the British voted out of that Satanic club. We will fight them on the beaches.
At this point all we have left is hope and courage.
Exactly why am I doomed? from what I posted in response to your video?
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 05:35:24 AM
Want to bet me 1000 quid?
If Trump goes NWO you win. If he carries on pissing them off or is killed I win.
You have let fear control you. You are making stupid decisions. I will gladly take your money and spend it on steak.
So bet.
That is not what I bet, i didn't bet he would keep pissing them off, it has to be more concrete than that....lock her up, defund PP or build the wall......thats the bar.
Oh and I truly hope I'm paying you $100 , I could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong........but you can't stand that I think your hero just mightn't have a cape and mightn't fly and actually might be the villain.
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 05:35:24 AM
Want to bet me 1000 quid?
If Trump goes NWO you win. If he carries on pissing them off or is killed I win.
You have let fear control you. You are making stupid decisions. I will gladly take your money and spend it on steak.
So bet.
You've just thanked the post by Paul14, which suggests that you agree with his "Fuck you" comment to me.
So fuck you, and fuck that little shit Paul14, who seems to think that any criticism of converts who become self-appointed lay theologians overnight is a criticism of his mum who is also a convert.
I won't be insulted like this. Fuck that.
Enjoy Trump and enjoy the NWO.
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 03, 2020, 06:11:50 AM
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 05:35:24 AM
Want to bet me 1000 quid?
If Trump goes NWO you win. If he carries on pissing them off or is killed I win.
You have let fear control you. You are making stupid decisions. I will gladly take your money and spend it on steak.
So bet.
You've just thanked the post by Paul14, which suggests that you agree with his "Fuck you" comment to me.
So fuck you, and fuck that little shit Paul14, who seems to think that any criticism of converts who become self-appointed lay theologians overnight is a criticism of his mum who is also a convert.
I won't be insulted like this. Fuck that.
Enjoy Trump and enjoy the NWO.
I think that is a no Greg. ;D
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 03, 2020, 04:20:25 AM
What is it with Trads that they are so ready to accept the dodgy opinions of self appointed, lay theologians - and converts into the bargain?
Michael Matt is not a convert. The Matt family have been part of the traditional movement since Vatican II.
And decent Catholics for 150 years.
Anti Trump trads are making the same mistake as the Resistance fools. Fellay never did a deal with Rome. They cut themselves off by guessing what might happen when they did not need to guess.
You dumbasses are making the same mistake. You might be right but why take the chance?
There is no upside in betraying Trump until he betrays you. You gain nothing except bragging rights on a forum which won't exist any longer because the NWO will take it down. You stupid monkeys.
And I told the Resistance what would happen when they resisted. They would go nuts and fight each other.
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 07:53:04 AM
And decent Catholics for 150 years.
Anti Trump trads are making the same mistake as the Resistance fools. Fellay never did a deal with Rome. They cut themselves off by guessing what might happen when they did not need to guess.
You dumbasses are making the same mistake. You might be right but why take the chance?
There is no upside in betraying Trump until he betrays you. You gain nothing except bragging rights on a forum which won't exist any longer because the NWO will take it down. You stupid monkeys.
Take a chance? Again what part of I support him but have my doubts do you not understand?
Btw, the resistance were the only ones having mass in my country. Good luck to you relying on sspx completely if shtf....
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 07:53:04 AM
There is no upside in betraying Trump until he betrays you. You gain nothing except bragging rights on a forum which won't exist any longer because the NWO will take it down. You stupid monkeys.
And what do you gain by your infantile hero worship of Trump? When the NWO takes down this forum your rantings will disappear into the ether just like everyone else's.
Enough of your insults, and that goes for the loathsome Paul14 too. I've never known a left/liberal/SJW type who was as obnoxious as you two have been.
But I would save some of my energy if I were you, Greg. You're going to need it for all head banging on walls that you're going to do when Trump shows whose side he's really on after the election. The more you rave about Trump, the more stupid you are going to look.
Paul14 has 'Yes dear' as his religion. That's about right for you, since you obviously despise Trads so much.
QuoteAnd what do you gain by your infantile hero worship of Trump? When the NWO takes down this forum your rantings will disappear into the ether just like everyone else's.
If he wins and does not go NWO I can mock you for the next 10 years for being a worry wart.
If he loses neither of us will ever know what he would have done and I'll be banned until 2024. By that time I will have found another hobby so I doubt I will ever be back.
If he wins and goes NWO, then I send $100 to Ireland (the price of 1 tank of go-juice for my car) and we all disappear into anonymity.
Big upside for me to be right. Very little downside for being wrong.
What do I gain by supporting Trump?
1. He is very entertaining.
2. He enrages leftists. I hate leftists and like to see them enraged.
3. He is such a weird anomaly and things are so messed up and he is so hated that I think in some hard to understand way God might be throwing him into the satanic machine to wreck it. He certainly appears to have an incredible amount of fortitude.
4. All of the people I like support Trump too.
You hate all the horses in the race and are refusing a free bet. That is dumb.
The world's favourite president has entered single combat with the invisible Chinese enemy. The outcome of this immense and terrible confrontation will determine the future for the next 100 years.
Quote from: diaduit on October 03, 2020, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: Greg on October 03, 2020, 07:53:04 AM
And decent Catholics for 150 years.
Anti Trump trads are making the same mistake as the Resistance fools. Fellay never did a deal with Rome. They cut themselves off by guessing what might happen when they did not need to guess.
You dumbasses are making the same mistake. You might be right but why take the chance?
There is no upside in betraying Trump until he betrays you. You gain nothing except bragging rights on a forum which won't exist any longer because the NWO will take it down. You stupid monkeys.
Take a chance? Again what part of I support him but have my doubts do you not understand?
Btw, the resistance were the only ones having mass in my country. Good luck to you relying on sspx completely if shtf....
The SSPX was still having Mass in some parishes. It was left to the discretion of the individual pastor.
I am still waiting to hear Trump's motive.
What would induce a billionaire to fake support for the right, have his personal life investigated, his past marital affairs revealed, his family threatened, his taxes looked into ?
What can the NWO offer him to compensate for that?
And why would the NWO want a 4 year delay with their fake right-wing stooge at the helm. What can they do in 2020 that they could not do in 2016?
This question requires an answer if your theory that he is a stooge is to be given ANY credibility at all.
Quote from: Greg on October 04, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
I am still waiting to hear Trump's motive.
What would induce a billionaire to fake support for the right, have his personal life investigated, his past marital affairs revealed, his family threatened, his taxes looked into ?
What can the NWO offer him to compensate for that?
And why would the NWO want a 4 year delay with their fake right-wing stooge at the helm. What can they do in 2020 that they could not do in 2016?
This question requires an answer if your theory that he is a stooge is to be given ANY credibility at all.
Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters. Note, I said might...its only a theory. I don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier? I've seen a monumental movement in the last 10 years compared to the 30 years before that. Pre 2010 trans weirdos were not reading to kids in libraries teaching them how to twerk. Kids 12/13 were not going to discos dressed like strippers, even gay marriage made a massive leap to acceptance since 2010, tv adds now all have gay couples as part of their publicity. why didn't they do this in 2000 -2010, who knows but each decade has reached their milestones 60s 70s 80s 90s etc have all chipped away at normal family units and national sovereignty and we have reached the pit of depravity with no pride in our country anymore...the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.
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Big upside for me to be right. Very little downside for being wrong.
Greg there is something very wrong about what you have said, there is a massive upside for the World (no not Gregworld) if you are right and an apocalyptic downside for everyone if you're wrong.!! Do you think of everything in view of just you??
Quote from: Greg on October 04, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
I am still waiting to hear Trump's motive.
What would induce a billionaire to fake support for the right, have his personal life investigated, his past marital affairs revealed, his family threatened, his taxes looked into ?
What can the NWO offer him to compensate for that?
And why would the NWO want a 4 year delay with their fake right-wing stooge at the helm. What can they do in 2020 that they could not do in 2016?
This question requires an answer if your theory that he is a stooge is to be given ANY credibility at all.
Exactly!
After 8 years under Obama, the US economy was on the ropes and conservatives were demoralized. If another neocon do-nothing Republican like Romney or McCain had gotten the nomination, conservative voting would have been depressed. The NWO expected to win in 2016.
Quote from: diaduit on October 04, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters. Note, I said might...its only a theory.
Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?
There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies. Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?
Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.
Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them? He is President.
QuoteI don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?
Because he needed to build up the German Military. He only began to do that in 1935. If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.
In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time. Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.
It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.
That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935. He was not capable of it.
The new world order has no reason to want to delay, but even if they did installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.
why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump? The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter. Only God could pick such a loose cannon.
Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson. ANYBODY but Donald Trump.
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the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.
Bullshit. 2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020. And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction. You are just making it up according to your fantasy. You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.
Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church,
so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?). Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.
My guess is the first. Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight. He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind and the left are driven crazy by. He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great. I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.
I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.
Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation and observed why projects succeed and fail. The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible. Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.
Quote from: Greg on October 04, 2020, 12:50:19 PM
Quote from: diaduit on October 04, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters. Note, I said might...its only a theory.
Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?
There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies. Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?
Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.
Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them? He is President.
QuoteI don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?
Because he needed to build up the German Military. He only began to do that in 1935. If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.
In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time. Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.
It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.
That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935. He was not capable of it.
The new world order has no reason to want to delay but installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.
And also why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump? The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter. Only God could pick such a freak.
Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson. ANYBODY but Donald Trump.
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the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.
Bullshit. 2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020. And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction. You are just making it up according to your fantasy. You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.
Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church, so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?). Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.
My guess is the first. Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight. He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind. He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great. I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.
I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.
Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation. The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible. Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.
I worked in the largest organisation in Britain headed by the Cabinet Secretary.
Below is an example of the lack of control.
Quote from: Frank on October 04, 2020, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Frank on September 25, 2020, 04:11:39 AM
Quote from: Greg on September 25, 2020, 03:21:13 AM
Not all people in Opus Dei are deep state actors. In fact, I doubt more than 0.5% are.
As I said to Dr Blackman of Pikington Brothers when we disagreed on the safety of Glass Reinforced Cement.
"You are entitled to your opinion Dr Blackman and I am entitled to mine."
He started screaming,
"I'll hound you Grimer. I'll hound you, I'll hound you!"
He then burst into tears.
My Deputy Director then said,
"I can't have you speaking to my staff like that!"
Dr Evans of PB suggested the meeting should adjourn, so we all trooped off to the the bog.
Blackman got hold of the Materials Division Head, Dr Gutt, and said,
"That Grimer of yours, he's a communist isn't he" (I wore an Astrakhan hat)
"Oh no," said Gutt."
"He a very good Catholic."
Needless to say in 5 years all the GRC panels failed.
This morning I came across a good example of GRC panels that failed:
Quote from: Frank on October 04, 2020, 03:39:36 AM
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcdDXBEWbs[/yt]
The blue cladding panels are Pilkington Bros GRC (glass reinforced cement) mentioned
in another thread. The panels failed after 5 years, as predicted, and let lime ooze out
through the cracks to give those disfiguring white streaks.
Every so often the panels would get repainted but within a relatively short space of time
the lime would come squeezing through the cracks again.
Still I will say one thing in their favour. The panels haven't fallen off unlike the soffit panel
under the Taf bridge in Wales,
My most memorable involvement in the aftermath of GRC failure was the time a
Dutch company wrote a letter a letter to BRS asking for help in suing Pilkingtons
for failure of their panels.
I wrote a memo to my division head suggesting that I sent them Note No 10 of
our strength tests showing that the material became completely brittle after 5 years.
Three days later I received a reply to my memo (signed by the Director, Dr Rex Watson,
an assistant director, Dr John Menzies and my division head) that I must under no
circumstances send that Note 10 to the Netherlands.
Being thoroughly pissed off by this I went to my security cabinet, packaged all 10
notes in a large envelope, wrote the Dutch address on the outside and put in the
out tray for the mail room.
Three days later I got a phone call from the firm. A rather conspiratorial voice
thanked for my help.
As for my bosses they never asked and I never said.
On reflection I think they were well aware of what I was likely to do and they just
wanted to cover their arses in case it blew up in their faces. How they would explain
not having checked up to see that the documents (they were all numbered) were
still in my possession, I can't imagine.
If enough people revolted against masks and lockdown the government would
soon find scientific advice to change their policy.
Quote from: Greg on October 04, 2020, 12:50:19 PM
Quote from: diaduit on October 04, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters. Note, I said might...its only a theory.
Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?
There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies. Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?
Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.
Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them? He is President.
QuoteI don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?
Because he needed to build up the German Military. He only began to do that in 1935. If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.
In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time. Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.
It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.
That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935. He was not capable of it.
The new world order has no reason to want to delay, but even if they did installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.
why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump? The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter. Only God could pick such a loose cannon.
Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson. ANYBODY but Donald Trump.
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the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.
Bullshit. 2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020. And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction. You are just making it up according to your fantasy. You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.
Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church, so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?). Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.
My guess is the first. Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight. He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind and the left are driven crazy by. He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great. I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.
I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.
Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation and observed why projects succeed and fail. The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible. Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.
No I don't have anything concrete and I could be wrong, hopefully I am.
I'm too fed up to go around in circles with you.....NPHET (our committee on CV) wants all of our country to go back to level 5 full lockdown again ....all because cases are gone through the roof but the deaths are minimal :(
Don't let the bastards turn you into a paranoid mental case then.
Donald Trump is not a double agent. He is just a billionaire who likes trolling and phucking around with the levers of power. You can tell by looking at his face that he is actually enjoying it.
I think he despise these idiots and just likes making them mad. I think he likes the common American man who he has seen building his buildings for many years. Such hard working people are admirable and I honestly believe Trump wants to go out as a hero to them and give them a fair shake.
All the evidence I have seen researching his past suggests to me that this is true. His employees like him because he has the common touch.
Did the new world order tell him to go for a drive to see his supporters?
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1312868365963272192?s=20
The NWO must be smoking crack if they want Trump as President. He is a balls out bonefide mad man.
I feel bad for his secret service men. No way I would get into a car with someone I knew was positive for covid. Frankly, I'm surprised his doctors allowed it.
They are ready to take a bullet. I am sure they are not worried about getting a cold or flu. They are fit healthy men.
He might not even have the virus.
Quote from: Greg on October 04, 2020, 04:03:50 PM
All the evidence I have seen researching his past suggests to me that this is true. His employees like him because he has the common touch.
Correct. Which is why the overeducated MSM despises him, because he's not part of the Intellectual Elite who take themselves Very Seriously.
Anybody know anything about this:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/28/michael-bloomberg/did-donald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/
I saw a post on fb that Trump fired the pandemic team in 2018 and put in a knew one. Link above is from a fact check website which are notoriously anti Trump. It seems he did a re shake alright but I can't see any other type of investigation on it.
(https://media.thedonald.win/post/XtUo4o0p.png)
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 02, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US. I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.
The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other. Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time. But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.
Trump just Tweeted the following
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
Quote from: Greg on October 05, 2020, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 02, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US. I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.
The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other. Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time. But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.
Trump just Tweeted the following
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
Greg, I'm so happy to see this....I'll start saving for your big steak :)
Quote from: Greg on October 05, 2020, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 02, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US. I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.
The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other. Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time. But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.
Trump just Tweeted the following
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
This could be a very clever play by Trump.
Trump beats Covid in next to no time, and at his age too. So he appears strong. But he is also wise enough to take the virus seriously and wear a mask now whenever in public. This shows humility. Meanwhile Joe Biden gives speeches in empty parking lots.
Trump says "Don't be afraid of Covid", again because he is strong. But he also takes the virus very seriously because he's humble.
Therefore, if he wins, he is in prime position to start introducing more lockdowns, seeing as it's winter when flu runs riot and who can tell the difference, and then the vaccine, of course, which he has already said will be distributed "in a forceful manner".
BLM/Antifa members will also be queuing for the vaccine, so they might not be rioting so much, especially as it's winter.
When he wins all of the lockdowns will stop. He wants the economy booming again and lockdowns don't assist with that. When America stops the rest of the world will follow.
He had to play along with the lockdowns because it was an election year. But once he has won and he cannot run again he has nothing to lose. He will go the full Sweden model and just tell people to wash their hands and get on with life. I reckon he will go nuts and finish that wall too if the civil rioting and fighting does not distract him
You must live in some sort of paranoia bubble awkward. The first thing he did as President was overturn trade agreements and climate agreements. These are not actions of someone pushing the NWO's agenda. Neither is supporting Brexit which is totally anti-NWO.
Are you suggesting Nigel Farage is a new world order stooge? What about Bishop Williamson? Is he one too?
Where does it end?
Why would the globalists roll out the NWO now, under cover of the Covid scamdemic, if they weren't absolutely certain of the full cooperation of whoever wins in November? If this really is the NWO being rolled out, Trump and Biden are both in on it.
But if the pandemic is real and it's all been a terrible mistake, and Trump begins to put right by lifting the lockdown and getting the US economy going again, then great. I hope this is how things turn out.
Quote from: diaduit on October 05, 2020, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Greg on October 05, 2020, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 02, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US. I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.
The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other. Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time. But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.
Trump just Tweeted the following
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
Greg, I'm so happy to see this....I'll start saving for your big steak :)
That is the best kind of gambing there is. You bet heavily on the outcome that you do not want to happen. I invented a term for this: Emotional Insurance. If the bad event happens then you get a big payout, which may be little comfort but provides some small compensation.
Quote from: awkwardcustomer on October 05, 2020, 06:13:50 PM
Why would the globalists roll out the NWO now, under cover of the Covid scamdemic, if they weren't absolutely certain of the full cooperation of whoever wins in November?
Because they are running out of time.
Because they think it will increase their chances of getting their man in.
A 2 party gentlemen agreement I can see. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, were all New World Order. But Trump is a wildcard and cannot be controlled.
The reason they have killed him is because he is God's tool. God wants to destroy their evil with Trump the smirking troll.
And let's face it. It is the most fun politics has ever been in our lifetimes. Record voter engagement.
Quote from: Greg on October 05, 2020, 04:12:04 PM
When he wins all of the lockdowns will stop. He wants the economy booming again and lockdowns don't assist with that. When America stops the rest of the world will follow.
He had to play along with the lockdowns because it was an election year. But once he has won and he cannot run again he has nothing to lose. He will go the full Sweden model and just tell people to wash their hands and get on with life. I reckon he will go nuts and finish that wall too if the civil rioting and fighting does not distract him
You must live in some sort of paranoia bubble awkward. The first thing he did as President was overturn trade agreements and climate agreements. These are not actions of someone pushing the NWO's agenda. Neither is supporting Brexit which is totally anti-NWO.
Are you suggesting Nigel Farage is a new world order stooge? What about Bishop Williamson? Is he one too?
Where does it end?
Gracious as ever Greg,
I'm ecstatic he said that yesterday, now if he says it after he gets elected, you've won and I'll be happy to pay. I might even drink a whiskey.
Before you get too excited:
https://thehighwire.com/videos/astrazeneca-saga-continues/?fbclid=IwAR2kQKMMv7Q2WLPeLAfOM6GWV9THC4h4b56sRNkRJl2qK0hWuvu7y-1ZpXQ
Trump makes a claim that the vaccines are looking good and the pharma companies won't take a chance on a bad vaccine because of liability ....eh we know thats not true.
Also no one replied to my earlier post that Trump fired the pandemic team in 2018 (set up in response to the ebola outbreak) and what do you know but Deborah Byrx brings in Fauci who happens to be so intertwined with the Wuhan lab, Microsofts Bill Gates, his wife is head of Dept of Bioethics and shady human trials, owning patents and horribly corrupt with HIV medicines....all very coincidental. Wasn't that all nice and handy for Fauci.
Obviously I don't agree with you that Trump is God's instrument for destroying the evil globalists. I think the globalists are God's instrument for bringing about the reign of the antichrist which can only be defeated by Christ Himself when He comes again. Hey. Now whose mental health is most in doubt?
If Trump wins and ends the lockdown, Covid will turn out to be a mass nervous breakdown by the governments of the world over a flu bug and Trump will be the man who restores the US and the rest of the world to sanity.
But if Trump wins and goes full lockdown with curfews, mandatory masks, vaccines, bringing in the military etc, then Covid will turn out to be the cover for rolling out the NWO and Trump will have been in on it all along.
I do agree with you about one thing though - it's exciting, and we'll know very soon.
And by the way, if you would take your eyes off Trump for 5 minutes and have a look at how the country you actually live in is turning into a police state, you might be a bit paranoid too.
God will destroy the globalists.
Trump is there purely to make them mad before God destroys them.
Quote from: Greg on October 06, 2020, 03:14:46 AM
God will destroy the globalists.
We can agree on this.
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evil appears as good in the minds of those whom god leads to destruction
What is the primary function of Trump? What does he accomplish better than anyone has ever done it before. What is he absolutely fabulous at doing?
There is one very good reason for liking Trump.
If you don't like him he will drive you absolutely nuts.
Talk to any rational person who does not like him and the reasons they give you for not liking him are straight out of the media.
So they are angry because someone else is angry. And that is nuts.
You're getting emotional now. I thought only women did that.
I don't dislike Trump. But a succession of lying, treacherous politicians over the past 25 years at least hasn't exactly inspired me to trust any of them, loose cannon or not. Boris Johnson was a loose cannon and just look at him now, if you can tear your eyes off Trump that is.
You have to trust somebody, since you cannot survive by yourself.
Trump is so bizarre that I trust him. Nobody that bizarre could work for the new world order.
It would have to be called the new world disorder.
Quote from: Greg on October 06, 2020, 03:21:53 AM
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evil appears as good in the minds of those whom god leads to destruction
What is the primary function of Trump? What does he accomplish better than anyone has ever done it before. What is he absolutely fabulous at doing?
To consolidate all the Right before the vaccine and usher them to take it....because we trust him!!
If you take ANY vaccine you don't need you have always been an idiot. Vaccines if they work at all work because most people take them without needing them.
Trump will not force a Covid vaccine on anyone. How can he after the way he has behaved? His voter base would never trust a covid vaccine and nobody under 65 is dying anyway, so why bother? I don't take the flu shot, and never would. I don't fear influenza.
CV is killing very old people and people with comorbities and the very rare freak. At least 30% of people will flat out refuse.
All Trump will do is talk and let those who fear take it.
Look what mini Trump thinks
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1313453423606497281
And look at the negative comments. Almost none are in agreement.
She ain't the President.
Quote from: Greg on October 06, 2020, 04:14:43 PM
And look at the negative comments. Almost none are in agreement.
She ain't the President.
Yeah I know but you also know she has a strong influence on him.