[POLL] Which Easter Triduum Rite did you attend?

Started by Aulef, April 19, 2022, 09:03:04 AM

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Aulef

Tota pulchra es, Maria
Et macula originalis non est in Te

TerrorDæmonum

You can edit the poll to fix the "Wester" option. Those listed rites are Eastern/Oriental. That is easier to express as "Divine Liturgy". That would cover them all.

For myself, traditional Roman Rite. I did not attend every day of the Triduum.



Kent

#2
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

I do profess to be no less than I seem, to serve him truly
that will put me in trust, to love him that is honest, to
converse with him that is wise and says little, to fear
judgment, to fight when I cannot choose, and to eat no fish.

Aulef

Quote from: TerrorDæmonum on April 19, 2022, 10:27:19 AM
You can edit the poll to fix the "Wester" option. Those listed rites are Eastern/Oriental. That is easier to express as "Divine Liturgy". That would cover them all.

For myself, traditional Roman Rite. I did not attend every day of the Triduum.

Thanks. I was typing something else and forgot to fix it
Tota pulchra es, Maria
Et macula originalis non est in Te

Aulef

Tota pulchra es, Maria
Et macula originalis non est in Te

Kent

Quote from: Aulef on April 19, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

What do you mean?

I attended Triduum rites according to Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms. That option is not on the list.
I do profess to be no less than I seem, to serve him truly
that will put me in trust, to love him that is honest, to
converse with him that is wise and says little, to fear
judgment, to fight when I cannot choose, and to eat no fish.

Prayerful

Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Aulef on April 19, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

What do you mean?

I attended Triduum rites according to Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms. That option is not on the list.

The second should be that. Any later changes up to 1962 were those limited changes to the Mass itself.
Padre Pio: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.

Kent

Quote from: Prayerful on April 19, 2022, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Aulef on April 19, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

What do you mean?

I attended Triduum rites according to Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms. That option is not on the list.

The second should be that. Any later changes up to 1962 were those limited changes to the Mass itself.

So there isn't a 1962 Holy Week then? It's been awhile since I've attended a 1962 chapel.
I do profess to be no less than I seem, to serve him truly
that will put me in trust, to love him that is honest, to
converse with him that is wise and says little, to fear
judgment, to fight when I cannot choose, and to eat no fish.

Heinrich

Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

Aulef

Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Aulef on April 19, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

What do you mean?

I attended Triduum rites according to Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms. That option is not on the list.

I tried to fix it to include your option
Tota pulchra es, Maria
Et macula originalis non est in Te

Kaesekopf

I assisted at the pre-1955* as offered by the ICKSP. 

*They sadly used the Benedict XVI Good Friday prayer, as opposed to the traditional one.  Alas.
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

andy

How do you justify pre-1955. Is not that disobedience to the pope Pius XII?

Justin Martyr

Quote from: andy on April 20, 2022, 12:45:40 PM
How do you justify pre-1955. Is not that disobedience to the pope Pius XII?

For masses in canonical union with the Church they just get approval from Rome or the local ordinary. Idk if the SSPX does this or not. As for sedes, from what I've read with them the argument is that the post-1955 Holy Week became intrinsically harmful after the "New Mass" was promulgated, and therefore they can dispense from the rubrics and use the older Holy Week. Or something to that effect.
The least departure from Tradition leads to a scorning of every dogma of the Faith.
St. Photios the Great, Encyclical to the Eastern Patriarchs

CANON I: As for all persons who dare to violate the definition of the holy and great Synod convened in Nicaea in the presence of Eusebeia, the consort of the most God-beloved Emperor Constantine, concerning the holy festival of the soterial Pascha, we decree that they be excluded from Communion and be outcasts from the Church if they persist more captiously in objecting to the decisions that have been made as most fitting in regard thereto; and let these things be said with reference to laymen. But if any of the person occupying prominent positions in the Church, such as a Bishop, or a Presbyter, or a Deacon, after the adoption of this definition, should dare to insist upon having his own way, to the perversion of the laity, and to the disturbance of the church, and upon celebrating Pascha along with the Jews, the holy Synod has hence judged that person to be an alien to the Church, on the ground that he has not only become guilty of sin by himself, but has also been the cause of corruption and perversion among the multitude. Accordingly, it not only deposes such persons from the liturgy, but also those who dare to commune with them after their deposition. Moreover, those who have been deposed are to be deprived of the external honor too of which the holy Canon and God's priesthood have partaken.
The Council of Antioch 341, recieved by the Council of Chalcedon

Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Prayerful

Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Prayerful on April 19, 2022, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Aulef on April 19, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Kent on April 19, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Not sure why there is no 1955 Tridentine option?

What do you mean?

I attended Triduum rites according to Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms. That option is not on the list.

The second should be that. Any later changes up to 1962 were those limited changes to the Mass itself.

So there isn't a 1962 Holy Week then? It's been awhile since I've attended a 1962 chapel.

There were literally no changes. Any slight changes were to the ordinary of the Mass, the usual things, but these were slight, and were for the whole year. The texts proper to the week are the 'restored' '55.
Padre Pio: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.

Aulef

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Quote from: andy on April 20, 2022, 12:45:40 PM
How do you justify pre-1955. Is not that disobedience to the pope Pius XII?

There is no disobedience as far as I know.

Institutes such as FSSP, ICKSP and IBP were given permission (indult) to use the pre 1955 Missal by the now extinct Ecclesia Dei starting in 2018. The indult was going to last until 2021, however many used it this year so I suppose either they were granted an extention or found a canonical breach to keep going with it.

Tota pulchra es, Maria
Et macula originalis non est in Te