Jewish Plot Against The Church

Started by Gottmitunsalex, May 02, 2013, 02:02:54 AM

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Innocent Smith

Quote from: Der Kaiser on May 03, 2013, 02:02:35 AM
Contrary to popular jewish propoganda Hitler and the NSDAP party line were not anti-Christian. They espoused what was called "positive Christianity". Which is essentially a form of Christianity without any hierarchy. They were anti-Catholic so far as it got involved in politics and against the Lutherans if they interfered in politics as well. Early on Hitler tried to combine both Catholic/Lutheran Churches into a single "ReichChurch" It would have been a Church along the lines of the CHurch of England.He even appointed an ArchBishop. They were also modern marcionites who removed the old testament. Which I can kinda understand. I myself have never had a whole lot of use for the OT myself. The SS in general was Pagan especially the high Command like Himmler but, Himmler refused to let any SS soldier be mocked for his Christian beliefs. Would that we had that in the US army today. I just read on google news the US armed services plan on court martialing any soldier who tries to proselytize or openly displays his faith.(unless he is jewish or muslim of course).

So Hitler was an Ecumaniac? Who would have thunk it? "Positive Christianity" does not sound too good to me. Not that I am trying to be negative or anything like that. The term itself reminds me of certain 20th Century philosophers who would argue that there is nothing negative in nature. Killing for example is a positive act. It occurred. Since an action took place it is positive. It is valueless. It does not concern itself with what is right, just what exists.

It does baffle me that any Traditional Catholic would have "little use" for the OT. You must not use a Missal or you don't have a clue of what is going on at Mass.

Obviously, they resented the OT because they thought it was "Jewish". Which of course is absurd. Hitler was indeed the best friend the Zionists could have ever hoped for. I'm thinking he was actually on their team.

In the meantime, I find it hilarious that this thread gets completely side tracked by scandal due to GMAs avatar. Let the man use whatever he likes. This political correctness should be laughed and mocked. But it is too sad for that.

I believe the Catholic Gazette story is essentially true, but it does not name its source. That is a weakness. And if I am not mistaken, that paper closed up shop soon after the release of this story. I did not watch the video, but I have read it before. Either way, these same people have created an environment where political correctness rules the day.

I wonder if such a protest would be heard if American Soldiers were seen taking Holy Communion in a field Mass during WWII. The post-Enlightenment nation, par excellence.

I don't know what GMA is thinking at the end of the day, nor do I have a clue about Der Kaiser. But, I do find it humorous that there are some people who want to fight Jewish Thinking and Jewish Naturalism by trying to prove that Hitler was somehow right, or merely misunderstood.

I can't help but think about Studs Terkel, a Jew, who wrote The Good War about WWII. He seems to be in agreement with those who are still wringing their hands for having lost it. It was good for bankers and business and for driving the final nail in the coffin of Christendom. The Jews won the war. And the best part about it, for them, is they did not fight in it, they just financed it. And the even better part is that they have been able to play the trump card which paints them as the ultimate victims.

That, my friends, is called control.
I am going to hold a pistol to the head of the modern man. But I shall not use it to kill him, only to bring him to life.

Coastal GA Trad



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So Hitler was an Ecumaniac? Who would have thunk it? "Positive Christianity" does not sound too good to me. Not that I am trying to be negative or anything like that. The term itself reminds me of certain 20th Century philosophers who would argue that there is nothing negative in nature. Killing for example is a positive act. It occurred. Since an action took place it is positive. It is valueless. It does not concern itself with what is right, just what exists.

It does baffle me that any Traditional Catholic would have "little use" for the OT. You must not use a Missal or you don't have a clue of what is going on at Mass.

Obviously, they resented the OT because they thought it was "Jewish". Which of course is absurd. Hitler was indeed the best friend the Zionists could have ever hoped for. I'm thinking he was actually on their team.

In the meantime, I find it hilarious that this thread gets completely side tracked by scandal due to GMAs avatar. Let the man use whatever he likes. This political correctness should be laughed and mocked. But it is too sad for that.

I believe the Catholic Gazette story is essentially true, but it does not name its source. That is a weakness. And if I am not mistaken, that paper closed up shop soon after the release of this story. I did not watch the video, but I have read it before. Either way, these same people have created an environment where political correctness rules the day.

I wonder if such a protest would be heard if American Soldiers were seen taking Holy Communion in a field Mass during WWII. The post-Enlightenment nation, par excellence.

I don't know what GMA is thinking at the end of the day, nor do I have a clue about Der Kaiser. But, I do find it humorous that there are some people who want to fight Jewish Thinking and Jewish Naturalism by trying to prove that Hitler was somehow right, or merely misunderstood.

I can't help but think about Studs Terkel, a Jew, who wrote The Good War about WWII. He seems to be in agreement with those who are still wringing their hands for having lost it. It was good for bankers and business and for driving the final nail in the coffin of Christendom. The Jews won the war. And the best part about it, for them, is they did not fight in it, they just financed it. And the even better part is that they have been able to play the trump card which paints them as the ultimate victims.



I completely agree with Innocent Smith in his saying that no one should attack Gottmitunsalex or anyone else because of the avatar they us. When I posted on this thread originally i just wanted to know what his avatar was, not trying to critique it one way or the other ( I actually think it is a very nice and symbolic photograph).
What is left there to do? My dear brethren, (...) I think I can say that we need to make a crusade based on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, leaning on the invincible rock and that inexhaustible source of grace which is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass."

His Grace Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, sermon  on his jubilee in 1979.


I am a traditional Catholic and a Royalist in Coastal Georgia.

"O Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and our own most gentle Queen and Mother, look down in mercy upon England, thy Dowry, and upon us all who greatly hope and trust in thee. Through thee it was that Jesus our Saviour and our Hope was given unto the world; and he hath given thee to us that we might hope still more. Plead for us thy children, whom thou didst receive and accept at the foot of the Cross, O sorrowful Mother. Intercede for our separated English brethren, that they may be united with us in the one true Fold. Pray for us all, dear Mother, that by faith fruitful in good works, we may all deserve to see and praise God together with thee in our heavenly home. Amen."- Prayer for the Conversion of England.

Jayne

Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I wonder if such a protest would be heard if American Soldiers were seen taking Holy Communion in a field Mass during WWII. The post-Enlightenment nation, par excellence.

Did any popes make statements about the Americans being the enemies of the Church?

Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I can't help but think about Studs Terkel, a Jew, who wrote The Good War about WWII. He seems to be in agreement with those who are still wringing their hands for having lost it. It was good for bankers and business and for driving the final nail in the coffin of Christendom. The Jews won the war. And the best part about it, for them, is they did not fight in it, they just financed it. And the even better part is that they have been able to play the trump card which paints them as the ultimate victims.

I had a cousin who fought and died in WWII.  He was in the Canadian Army and he was Jewish.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Jayne

Quote from: Coastal GA Trad on May 03, 2013, 10:22:50 AM
I completely agree with Innocent Smith in his saying that no one should attack Gottmitunsalex or anyone else because of the avatar they us. When I posted on this thread originally i just wanted to know what his avatar was, not trying to critique it one way or the other ( I actually think it is a very nice and symbolic photograph).

So you would not have a problem if I used this as my avatar?


An image that is associated with an enemy of the Church is problematic.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Jayne

In regard to the statement that Jews did not fight in WWII, here is an excerpt from a Hamilton Ontario newspaper:
QuoteIn his speech, Mr. Levitt recited the names of fellow Hamiltonian Jews who had died in the fighting and where they perished.  "It was very sacred, very holy," said Mr. Rubenstein, adding, "Who knows the last time these people's names were mentioned?"

Among the names Levitt recalled were: Flight Seargent Alex Balinson, Flight Officer Joseph Feldman, Seargent Ralph Frank, Warrant Officer Alfred Garshowitz and Flight Officer Sydney Lees. He also told his audience about a Hamilton hero who survived: retired Hamilton lawyer, David Goldberg, an outstanding pilot who was shot down over France, managed to land and connect with the French underground and ultimately escape to England. Flown home for a hero's welcome in Hamilton, Mr. Goldberg, who was not obliged to return to the Front, returned to Europe as a company squadron leader who led formations of spitfire planes over Italy that attacked German mortar positions and provided air support for the British army's Jewish Brigade. His remarkable wartime career included a total of 234 missions for which he was recognized by being awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.

I use Hamilton as a an example because two of the men listed here are relatives of mine.  If this fairly small town has its examples of Jewish soldiers, how many must there have been among all the allies?
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Coastal GA Trad

Allow me to correct myself. What I was referring to  in my previous post was an avatar that didn't come into compromise with the traditional Catholic Faith. I thought that was not something i had to explain.  Yes, there would be a HUGE problem if someone actually used an avatar like that or any other symbol associated with people condemned by the church.
What is left there to do? My dear brethren, (...) I think I can say that we need to make a crusade based on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, leaning on the invincible rock and that inexhaustible source of grace which is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass."

His Grace Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, sermon  on his jubilee in 1979.


I am a traditional Catholic and a Royalist in Coastal Georgia.

"O Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and our own most gentle Queen and Mother, look down in mercy upon England, thy Dowry, and upon us all who greatly hope and trust in thee. Through thee it was that Jesus our Saviour and our Hope was given unto the world; and he hath given thee to us that we might hope still more. Plead for us thy children, whom thou didst receive and accept at the foot of the Cross, O sorrowful Mother. Intercede for our separated English brethren, that they may be united with us in the one true Fold. Pray for us all, dear Mother, that by faith fruitful in good works, we may all deserve to see and praise God together with thee in our heavenly home. Amen."- Prayer for the Conversion of England.

Jayne

Quote from: Coastal GA Trad on May 03, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
Allow me to correct myself. What I was referring to  in my previous post was an avatar that didn't come into compromise with the traditional Catholic Faith. I thought that was not something i had to explain.  Yes, there would be a HUGE problem if someone actually used an avatar like that or any other symbol associated with people condemned by the church.

Pius XI called Nazis "the enemies of Christ and His Church."  That sounds like a pretty clear condemnation to me.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Dominica

Joseph Stalin was more of an enemy to Our Lord and His Church, but he seems to have gone down the memory hole.

Innocent Smith

Quote from: RealJayneK on May 03, 2013, 10:33:32 AM
Quote from: Coastal GA Trad on May 03, 2013, 10:22:50 AM
I completely agree with Innocent Smith in his saying that no one should attack Gottmitunsalex or anyone else because of the avatar they us. When I posted on this thread originally i just wanted to know what his avatar was, not trying to critique it one way or the other ( I actually think it is a very nice and symbolic photograph).

So you would not have a problem if I used this as my avatar?


An image that is associated with an enemy of the Church is problematic.

Outside of that avatar being redundant, why would anyone have a problem with it? In fact, I think you should use it. And since when have the Jews been classified as an enemy of the Church? We have dialogue with them now.
I am going to hold a pistol to the head of the modern man. But I shall not use it to kill him, only to bring him to life.

Jayne

Quote from: Dominica on May 03, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
Joseph Stalin was more of an enemy to Our Lord and His Church, but he seems to have gone down the memory hole.

Yes he was our enemy too.  I think we would all object if anyone used an avatar that was associated with Joseph Stalin, or otherwise denied his evil and anti-Christian agenda.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Jayne

Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
Outside of that avatar being redundant, why would anyone have a problem with it? In fact, I think you should use it. And since when have the Jews been classified as an enemy of the Church? We have dialogue with them now.

Since the Crucifixion.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Innocent Smith

Quote from: RealJayneK on May 03, 2013, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I wonder if such a protest would be heard if American Soldiers were seen taking Holy Communion in a field Mass during WWII. The post-Enlightenment nation, par excellence.

Did any popes make statements about the Americans being the enemies of the Church?

Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I can't help but think about Studs Terkel, a Jew, who wrote The Good War about WWII. He seems to be in agreement with those who are still wringing their hands for having lost it. It was good for bankers and business and for driving the final nail in the coffin of Christendom. The Jews won the war. And the best part about it, for them, is they did not fight in it, they just financed it. And the even better part is that they have been able to play the trump card which paints them as the ultimate victims.

I had a cousin who fought and died in WWII.  He was in the Canadian Army and he was Jewish.

Is there a point to bringing up your cousin? Nice use of anecdotal evidence. As usual.

And it is a sad reality that no popes have seen the extent of harm that Americanism has done to the Church.

Thanks for another diversion from the actual point. Here's an idea, next time you want to divert off the main point of someone's post, could you at least post a picture of a pretty girl or something like that?
I am going to hold a pistol to the head of the modern man. But I shall not use it to kill him, only to bring him to life.

Coastal GA Trad

#42
Pius XI condemned Nazis, not every single person who lived in Germany during the second world war! I have never even come close to supporting Nazism, but I think that it is important that people remember that not every single person who was in the German Army during the Second World War was a Nazi. I personally know of people who served in the German Army during WWII and they are the farthest thing from Nazis. What i see in this photo are devout Catholics reverently receiving Our Lord on the battlefield in the service of their country. I highly doubt anyone would look negatively on that.
What is left there to do? My dear brethren, (...) I think I can say that we need to make a crusade based on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, leaning on the invincible rock and that inexhaustible source of grace which is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass."

His Grace Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, sermon  on his jubilee in 1979.


I am a traditional Catholic and a Royalist in Coastal Georgia.

"O Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and our own most gentle Queen and Mother, look down in mercy upon England, thy Dowry, and upon us all who greatly hope and trust in thee. Through thee it was that Jesus our Saviour and our Hope was given unto the world; and he hath given thee to us that we might hope still more. Plead for us thy children, whom thou didst receive and accept at the foot of the Cross, O sorrowful Mother. Intercede for our separated English brethren, that they may be united with us in the one true Fold. Pray for us all, dear Mother, that by faith fruitful in good works, we may all deserve to see and praise God together with thee in our heavenly home. Amen."- Prayer for the Conversion of England.

Jayne

#43
Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: RealJayneK on May 03, 2013, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I wonder if such a protest would be heard if American Soldiers were seen taking Holy Communion in a field Mass during WWII. The post-Enlightenment nation, par excellence.

Did any popes make statements about the Americans being the enemies of the Church?

Quote from: Innocent Smith on May 03, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
I can't help but think about Studs Terkel, a Jew, who wrote The Good War about WWII. He seems to be in agreement with those who are still wringing their hands for having lost it. It was good for bankers and business and for driving the final nail in the coffin of Christendom. The Jews won the war. And the best part about it, for them, is they did not fight in it, they just financed it. And the even better part is that they have been able to play the trump card which paints them as the ultimate victims.

I had a cousin who fought and died in WWII.  He was in the Canadian Army and he was Jewish.

Is there a point to bringing up your cousin? Nice use of anecdotal evidence. As usual.

And it is a sad reality that no popes have seen the extent of harm that Americanism has done to the Church.

Thanks for another diversion from the actual point. Here's an idea, next time you want to divert off the main point of someone's post, could you at least post a picture of a pretty girl or something like that?

I brought up my cousin because he always comes to my mind when WWII is mentioned. I grew up hearing people speak of how much they missed him.   There is, of course, a massive amount of non-anecdotal evidence that Jews fought in WWII. 

You are the one who raised the topic of Jews fighting in WWII.  I was merely correcting the error in your statement.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

Jayne

Quote from: Coastal GA Trad on May 03, 2013, 11:41:11 AM
Pius XI condemned Nazis, not every single person who lived in Germany during the second world war! I have never even come close to supporting Nazism, but I think that it is important that people remember that not every single person who was in the German Army during the Second World War was a Nazi. I personally know of people who served in the German Army during WWII and they are the farthest thing from Nazis. What i see in this photo are devout Catholics reverently receiving Our Lord on the battlefield in the service of their country. I highly doubt anyone would look negatively on that.

The German army implemented the policies of the Nazis.  That is a very strong association with an enemy of the Church.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.