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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2021, 07:08:12 PM »
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2021, 07:24:31 AM »
Puccini, Mozart, Klingon.
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2021, 10:36:26 AM »
Puccini, Mozart,
Nice.

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Klingon.

A real traditionalist! One word of advice: if you attend a Klingon opera, sit in the back.

Have you read Shakespeare in the original tlhIngan Hol?
In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin. Ecclesiasticus 7:40

O ye sons of men, how long will you be dull of heart? why do you love vanity, and seek after lying? Psalms 4:3

But the end of all is at hand. Be prudent therefore, and watch in prayers. But before all things have a constant mutual charity among yourselves: for charity covereth a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:7-8

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness. But godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world: and certainly we can carry nothing out. But having food, and wherewith to be covered, with these we are content. For they that will become rich, fall into temptation, and into the snare of the devil, and into many unprofitable and hurtful desires, which drown men into destruction and perdition.  For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows. 1 Timonthy 6:3-10
 
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2021, 04:11:20 PM »
Puccini, Mozart,
Nice.

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Klingon.

A real traditionalist! One word of advice: if you attend a Klingon opera, sit in the back.

Have you read Shakespeare in the original tlhIngan Hol?
non impediti ratione cogitationis
 

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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2021, 04:42:07 PM »
I have to be in the mood for wagner. 

Used to do opera in high school, college.  This time of year we are always watching "amahl and the night visitors." A good first opera for kids
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2021, 11:58:29 AM »
I wish I knew enough about opera to be an enthusiast.
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2021, 12:04:10 PM »
I wish I knew enough about opera to be an enthusiast.

I'm not an enthusiast myself. I just like some opera sometimes.

However, you can get a recording that will have references with it. My CD sets of the same cycle of Der Ring des Nibelungun have a book in the slipcase with the entire text and explanations.

Maybe reading about an opera first, and then listening to it, or watching it, could help.

It doesn't take much for one to appreciate it, or for non-opera fans to consider one an enthusiast.

See the suggestions in this thread (try a shorter one than Der Ring des Nibelungun) and pick one which sounds like it has an interesting story.

Or you could just listen to highlights from operas. Many have famous portions that are widely known in popular culture. For example, Ride of the Valkyries is widely known by itself. That is from the middle of the second opera in the cycle.

Or you could try some light opera, as Jayne does:

I don't usually like opera.  One the other hand, I am a big fan of Gilbert and Sullivan's works which some categorize as opera.  Personally, I call them operettas.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 12:07:40 PM by Pæniteo »
In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin. Ecclesiasticus 7:40

O ye sons of men, how long will you be dull of heart? why do you love vanity, and seek after lying? Psalms 4:3

But the end of all is at hand. Be prudent therefore, and watch in prayers. But before all things have a constant mutual charity among yourselves: for charity covereth a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:7-8

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness. But godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world: and certainly we can carry nothing out. But having food, and wherewith to be covered, with these we are content. For they that will become rich, fall into temptation, and into the snare of the devil, and into many unprofitable and hurtful desires, which drown men into destruction and perdition.  For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows. 1 Timonthy 6:3-10
 
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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2021, 03:25:42 PM »
Do you also watch the intro credits on movies and then stop watching?

I will watch portions of movies if I'm only interested in those portions.  If that's the intro, sure.  I can think of certain instances.  In the case of opera, the introduction is the most interesting part to me, so why spend time on something that doesn't appeal to me because it's attached?
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"
 

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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2021, 03:31:53 PM »
so why spend time on something that doesn't appeal to me because it's attached?

I have so many things I could say in response to this, but I won't.

In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin. Ecclesiasticus 7:40

O ye sons of men, how long will you be dull of heart? why do you love vanity, and seek after lying? Psalms 4:3

But the end of all is at hand. Be prudent therefore, and watch in prayers. But before all things have a constant mutual charity among yourselves: for charity covereth a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:7-8

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness. But godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world: and certainly we can carry nothing out. But having food, and wherewith to be covered, with these we are content. For they that will become rich, fall into temptation, and into the snare of the devil, and into many unprofitable and hurtful desires, which drown men into destruction and perdition.  For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows. 1 Timonthy 6:3-10
 

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Re: Any Opera Fans?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2021, 03:57:45 PM »
so why spend time on something that doesn't appeal to me because it's attached?

I have so many things I could say in response to this, but I won't.

That's good, because I'd probably just read the first sentence.
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"
 
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2021, 04:02:33 PM »
That's good, because I'd probably just read the first sentence.

Call me Ishmael.

Etc.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 04:06:04 PM by Pæniteo »
In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin. Ecclesiasticus 7:40

O ye sons of men, how long will you be dull of heart? why do you love vanity, and seek after lying? Psalms 4:3

But the end of all is at hand. Be prudent therefore, and watch in prayers. But before all things have a constant mutual charity among yourselves: for charity covereth a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:7-8

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness. But godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world: and certainly we can carry nothing out. But having food, and wherewith to be covered, with these we are content. For they that will become rich, fall into temptation, and into the snare of the devil, and into many unprofitable and hurtful desires, which drown men into destruction and perdition.  For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows. 1 Timonthy 6:3-10
 
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