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Paul, I haven't looked into the money thing much, I admit. I'll look into that and get back later.


Follow the money trail, always.
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General News and Discussion / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine
« Last post by Justin Martyr on Today at 03:09:06 PM »
This part from the Catholic Tradition article earlier is enlightening. It appears many mystics have said Communists and Islamists together will attack the West.

"It appears that the world today is truly "on the verge of a frightful abyss". The prophetic revelations made to Sister Elena Aiello confirm the earlier prophecies of St. John Bosco, Blessed Anna Maria Taigi and others that there will be a great war waged against the Western nations by Russia, China and the Islamic nations. Most Americans have no idea as to just how dangerous the geopolitical situation is. They have swallowed the idea, hook, line and sinker that the United States is the world's only superpower, and therefore they believe the United States can exert its will wherever it wishes.

There is, in fact, only one military superpower in the world, and that is Russia. "Russia," Donald McAlvany explains, "[the 'former' Soviet Union] still has the largest military machine in the world; the largest nuclear missile arsenal . . . the largest arsenal of tanks, armored vehicles, nuclear submarines, ICBM's and SLBM's [Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles], and warplanes in the world." 13
 
It is still the intention of Soviet Russia to conquer the entire world. In a speech to the Lenin School for Political Warfare in Moscow in the 1930s, Dimitri Manuilski declared, "War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. But today we are too weak to strike. Our day will come in 30-40 years. But first we must lull the capitalist nations to sleep with the greatest overtures of peace and disarmament known throughout history. And then, when their guard is dropped, we will smash them with our clenched fist."

   Soviet Russia has unswervingly adhered to this policy since then to the present. In November 1987, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev stated in a speech to the Politburo: "Gentlemen, Comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and to let them fall asleep."

   The Soviet military leaders are disciples of Sun Tsu, the author of the Art of War, who wrote in 500 B.C., "We advance through retreat." The retreat was the dismantling of the inefficient and bureaucratic Stalinist state, the Soviet Union, and restructuring it into the present Leninist state, Soviet Russia. In the Winter 1993 Issue of The Fatima Crusader, I reported:

Well by golly, these soviet fellas sound like individuals capable of actually stringing together a coherent thought and making sensible long-term strategic plans. I'd take that to the insanity raging in the west anyday.

Besides, a communist state means martyrs are made, saints are purified, and the chaff is cast out. Though bloody, ultimately such a thing would be good for the Church. As Tertullian said: "Plures efficimur, quotiens metimur a vobis: semen est sanguis Christianorum."
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In the meantime, Europe implodes.  Without Nordstream, which is never going to restart, Europe doesn't have the affordable gas it needs.

Prize for flame-of-the-week goes to the guy running this livestream below. (If the Russian lyrics are NSFW, please don't anyone translate for us.)


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Then there are the power bills for the customers.  These are generally capped for 1 year.  Those caps are rolling off and they are getting killed by the new rates.
Europe is toast.


Since game-show fuel bill prizes are but fantasy one-offs, perhaps what's happening in Europe is part of the roll-out for a future of social credit-based carbon consumption allowances. Follow their rules, or freeze, it seems.
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General Catholic Discussion / Re: What do you think of Medjugorje?
« Last post by Paul_D on Today at 02:48:47 PM »
Here's the book I've referenced: The Apparitions at Medjugorje. https://archive.org/details/apparitionsofour00kral/page/94/mode/2up

Check p. 95! It essentially says there is no difference between a Catholic and a Protestant, although the apparitions are under the auspices of the Catholic Church.

From a source that believes in the apparitions!

It also quotes Mirjana in an interview on page 124 that the various peoples have enforced unnatural separation for the various religions, and that other religions must be respected, especially the Muslims! And that one cannot be a true Christian if he makes fun of other religions! Using this logic, the saints aren't saints for their devastating attacks on Protestantism, Islam, etc.
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General Catholic Discussion / Re: What do you think of Medjugorje?
« Last post by Paul_D on Today at 02:45:17 PM »
As I showed earlier, the claim that the messages promote indifferentism or reject conversion to Catholicism is not true. I posted two sample messages, quite recent, as examples. Both speak of Salvation in Christ or Conversion to the Immaculata.

Agree or disagree with the messages itself; but this does not contradict the Faith or sound theology in any way, that is clear.

These two Messages, very recent, and directly from Our Lady Herself, and not from one of the seers, clearly rejects Indifferentism and teaches Conversion to the Immaculate Heart/Catholic Faith.

Therefore, my apostles, always love one another and above all, love my Son. This is the only way to salvation, to eternal life. This is my dearest prayer which fills my heart with the most beautiful scent of roses. Pray, always pray for your shepherds that they may have the strength to be the light of my Son. Thank you."

Source: https://mysticpost.com/2021/01/medjugorje-today-january-14-2021-this-is-the-only-way-to-salvation-to-eternal-life-this-is-my-dearest-prayer-intimately-our-lady-reveals-the-secret-path-to-eternity/

Hence, Our Lady teaches that those who do not love one another and above all Her Son, Jesus Christ, cannot be saved.

2) And the other quote I gave earlier: "Little children, you be generous and be the love of my love, so that pagans can feel that you are mine and convert to my Immaculate Heart. Thank you for having responded to my call. Taken from: https://www.medjugorje.cc/messages/ (Message for July 25, 2021). That is not indifferentism but encourages conversion

Paul, I haven't looked into the money thing much, I admit. I'll look into that and get back later.

What about this? Are you going to tell me this is correct or that they are quoting the sources wrongly? It doesn't matter how much truth there is, if there is a few lies in the beginning, like this article shows.

https://catholiclight.stblogs.org/index.php/2010/03/the-deviations-of-medjugorje/
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Charlton's post is overall a very good warning to traditionalist Catholics. However, there are caveats to be added with regard to the danger of conflating the different sorts of psychotherapy as well as ignoring the animosity among them.

The old-line Freudians still adhere to a sort of Gnosis in which a psychotherapist's particular lineage is given as much weight as Catholics do the importance of apostolic succession. Where and with whom one trained matters a lot, as does the terminal degree -- PhD, MD, etc. The techniques involved are spoken of with awe as though these were a secret set of alchemical incantations. Back in my NYC days, I knew a clique of postgraduates who were enrolled at one of the more exclusive institutes, and oh, did the air hang thickly around them.

Yet the old-line Freudians get little respect at present apart from the ultra-wealthy and/or ultra-educated who see having gone through such analysis as an insider's status marker. And there is still another utilitarian faction that believes in the efficacy of cognitive-behavioral therapy; they'll wave peer-reviewed clinical studies at you and urge that you follow the insurance-eligible science. (And truly pathetic are the Freudian-trained who offer CBT on the side mainly so as to be able to pay the office rent. Thanks, Obamacare.) Much more common are the anti-Freudian Humanists descended from Abraham Maslow and Carl Rogers, comparable in worldview to the most florid of Novus Ordo Jesuits. Rogers especially is notorious, as described by E. Michael Jones, for having corrupted the IHM nuns decades ago in Los Angeles.

The problem now in 2022 is that all of the older schools of psychotherapy, from Freudian to Humanist, have been thrown out in favor of an incoherent mash of sociologically-framed victimology "stacks" whereby any given person's worthiness is assessed, almost in board-game-like fashion, by how many chits of oppression one accumulates, i.e., one's depth of intersectionality. (There are now licensed therapists who, as if in a parallel universe of atheistic exorcism, advertise their skill in helping troubled individuals discover which particular oppressions plague them.) Years ago in those social circles, a diagnosis of autism carried clout, but then that was discarded as neurological determinism; hence many autist children grew up to be nonbinary young adults.

These stacks continue to morph, but I'd wager that few on this forum can perceive these permutations of pathology. To the typical SD reader, it just looks like one huge fetid and sordid mess. Why should we care? Because when these ideological rejects lose their status in the secular power struggle, they'll come looking for sympathy and allies wherever they can find it, even as we see now in the Catholic Church.
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Lula has been ahead in the polls for weeks now.

It would be a shocker if Bolsonaro managed to get reelected.
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General Catholic Discussion / Re: What do you think of Medjugorje?
« Last post by Goldfinch on Today at 02:24:43 PM »
As I showed earlier, the claim that the messages promote indifferentism or reject conversion to Catholicism is not true. I posted two sample messages, quite recent, as examples. Both speak of Salvation in Christ or Conversion to the Immaculata.

Agree or disagree with the messages itself; but this does not contradict the Faith or sound theology in any way, that is clear.

Our Lady does not mix truth with falsehood, nor does She inspire seers to lead worldly lives.

The Medjugorje seers have delivered heretical messages for years. This has been pointed out several times in this thread. "God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers (...) The Madonna always stresses that there is but one God and that people have enforced unnatural separation. One cannot truly believe, be a true Christian, if he does not respect other religions as well (...) The Madonna said that religions are separated in the earth, but the people of all religions are accepted by Her Son." - Seer Ivanka Ivankovic, The Apparitions of Our Lady of Medjugorje, Franciscan Herald Press, 1984.
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Baylee,
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And this is why CR could not provide me with pre-V2 teaching on so-called "partial" or "imperfect" communion with non-Catholic churches.
Because The Catholic Church taught the complete opposite.
CR should completely jump on board with the Vatican II religion and give up his anti-sedeness.
Yes, C.R. Wants to "have his Council/Pope and eat it too"; If one wants to be "in-Communion" with the Conciliar Church, not only by word but "one in faith and mind", one has to give up the rigid pre-Conciliar ecclesiological notions of the identity of the Catholic Church with the Mystical Body of Christ; of the necessity of belonging to the Church as a condition of salvation, including submission and communion with the Pope.

Bill,
yes, a person who does not  belong to the Catholic Church as an 'actual member' may belong to her 'in voto' (PXII M.C.); the Conciliar magisterium makes the illogical and unwaranted jump from the fact that there are men who outwardly are members of false sects, but who 'in voto' may belong to the Catholic Church; into the proclamation that not only these men belong to the Church, but the false sects that they are in are also "in communion'' (albeit "partial") with the Catholic Church.
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