If you were given a prize/gift with private tutoring, travel and living stipend in Russia or Japan with continued tutoring to fluency, which or the two would you learn?
That's a tough call. Both are relatively difficult for native speakers of English. Both have rich cultures, including a great literary tradition. Both have large numbers of speakers and important economies, and so are "useful" in the modern world. It really comes down to which one appeals to you more esthetically, which country you want to visit, which books you want to read, or which people you want to be able to talk to. Right now I would say Russian, but there have been times I would have said Japanese.
Seeing as how I would be a white man in Japan, I would choose Japan. I'm biased, though, because the stories say that Japanese people freak out when a white person speaks their language, and then occasionally shower you with alcohol. hahaha.
But, I'm also biased because a lot of my friends (a good number, actually) have either studied there or lived there.
Here are some comparisons:
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Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 30, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
Seeing as how I would be a white man in Japan, I would choose Japan. I'm biased, though, because the stories say that Japanese people freak out when a white person speaks their language, and then occasionally shower you with alcohol. hahaha.
But, I'm also biased because a lot of my friends (a good number, actually) have either studied there or lived there.
Ach so!
Also, I almost forgot:
Pokemans.
This is a really good question. It's a coin toss - Russian.
Russia. The women are more attractive.
I am happily married to a women whose lineage is French Canadian.
Do you speak Russian, Greg? I know your wife does and you travel there often. Is it Greek to you or are you able to enjoy this Slavic tongue?
Quote from: Greg on December 30, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
Russia. The women are more attractive.
I did not consider this in my choice.
I want to change my vote. ;D
LOL!
Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 30, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
Also, I almost forgot:
Pokemans.
This, this is the answer.
And I dunno, I've known some
rather attractive Japanese women in my time. This might not determine the answer for us. ;D
Pokemans, on the other hand...
Haha! Yes, my real reason for preferring Russian is that the men are more attractive. Nevermind that I would also love to be able to read Dostoyevsky in the original, that Cyrillic is far easier to master than Kanji, that I prefer vodka to sake, that I think I look great in an ushanka, and that I could never pass for Japanese no matter how well I spoke the language so it would do little to advance my career in international espionage.
Quote from: Heinrich on December 30, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
I am happily married to a women whose lineage is French Canadian.
Do you speak Russian, Greg? I know your wife does and you travel there often. Is it Greek to you or are you able to enjoy this Slavic tongue?
So would your wife go with you?
I speak a little. My kids are fluent. I can read the writing and get the gist of a menu or railway timetable. The difficult thing are the tenses, and it is pretty wordy. More words to express the same thing.
Japan probably offers better job prospects.
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 01:55:46 PM
Haha! Yes, my real reason for preferring Russian is that the men are more attractive. Nevermind that I would also love to be able to read Dostoyevsky in the original, that Cyrillic is far easier to master than Kanji, that I prefer vodka to sake, that I think I look great in an ushanka, and that I could never pass for Japanese no matter how well I spoke the language so it would do little to advance my career in international espionage.
Good points. Russian men are the bomb. Love him or hate him, one has to admit he's a tough dude:
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Quote from: Greg on December 30, 2012, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Heinrich on December 30, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
I am happily married to a women whose lineage is French Canadian.
Do you speak Russian, Greg? I know your wife does and you travel there often. Is it Greek to you or are you able to enjoy this Slavic tongue?
So would your wife go with you?
I speak a little. My kids are fluent. I can read the writing and get the gist of a menu or railway timetable. The difficult thing are the tenses, and it is pretty wordy. More words to express the same thing.
Japan probably offers better job prospects.
In all seriousness, I would steer towards Russian. The culture is more appealing to me and its proximity to Europe is a plus. Long weekend highspeed train trips to Vienna or Munich are appealing.
Yes. Mrs. Heinrich would accompany me due to relocation. My jobs prospects are actually better in the land of the Tsars. I am also wary of the Japanese Bushido approach to business. But then again, if my chargees don't produce, it is probably better to lose a pinky finger than have a bullet implanted in the back of my head.
Russia is at least Christian (albeit schismatic). The Society of Saint Pius X has a Russian priory (http://www.fsspx.of.by/ru/about/ (http://www.fsspx.of.by/ru/about/)), and there is a diocesan hierarchy, with indult Tridentine Masses at Moscow, St. Petersburg and Rostov-on-the-Don*. I can tell you nothing about Japan - most Japanese are or were pagans, I assume there is a hierarchy, or was one, as several Jesuit Saints were martyred there. As for the Tridentine Mass, I do not know.
* According to Rorate Caeli
I was thinking more along the lines of Maksim Chmerkovskiy:
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Granted, he's Ukrainian, but the two dialects are supposed to be highly mutually intelligible.
Quote from: PatrickG on December 30, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
Russia is at least Christian (albeit schismatic). The Society of Saint Pius X has a Russian priory (http://www.fsspx.of.by/ru/about/ (http://www.fsspx.of.by/ru/about/)), and there is a diocesan hierarchy, with indult Tridentine Masses at Moscow, St. Petersburg and Rostov-on-the-Don*. I can tell you nothing about Japan - most Japanese are or were pagans, I assume there is a hierarchy, or was one, as several Jesuit Saints were martyred there. As for the Tridentine Mass, I do not know.
* According to Rorate Caeli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimabara_Rebellion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimabara_Rebellion)
Japan has its share of Catholics.
Japanese. The prospect of watching some of my favorite movies and TV shows without dubs/subs is too appealing. Plus, while over there, I'd be able to find out if Seibo no Mikuni (organization of sedefinitist nuns in Fukushima) is still active.
Food is better in Japan for sure
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Granted, he's Ukrainian, but the two dialects are supposed to be highly mutually intelligible.
My friend who studied in Ukraine said that you essentially know 70% of Ukrainian if you speak Russian.
And if you go to eastern Ukraine, they love Russia.
Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 30, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Granted, he's Ukrainian, but the two dialects are supposed to be highly mutually intelligible.
My friend who studied in Ukraine said that you essentially know 70% of Ukrainian if you speak Russian.
And if you go to eastern Ukraine, they love Russia.
Yes, I have a friend who was in the Peace Corps in the Ukraine, so she knows Ukrainian. She said that she could always get around Russia with only minor difficulties.
Yes the minor difficulties were that they did not heat the cattle trucks between the prison camps.(//)
Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 30, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Granted, he's Ukrainian, but the two dialects are supposed to be highly mutually intelligible.
My friend who studied in Ukraine said that you essentially know 70% of Ukrainian if you speak Russian.
And if you go to eastern Ukraine, they love Russia.
How does the Catholic section (i.e. western Ukraine) of the Ukraine feel about Russia?
There are some trads in Japan. There is even a trad Japanese priest, and a Russian one as well.
They do share their western Ukraine brethren's sentiments, poche.
Quote from: poche on December 31, 2012, 02:31:16 AM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 30, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Granted, he's Ukrainian, but the two dialects are supposed to be highly mutually intelligible.
My friend who studied in Ukraine said that you essentially know 70% of Ukrainian if you speak Russian.
And if you go to eastern Ukraine, they love Russia.
How does the Catholic section (i.e. western Ukraine) of the Ukraine feel about Russia?
They don't trust the Russians. They are pro Western Europe and nationalists.
This question is a no brainer for me. I would definitely choose Russia. :) Russian history is so rich and interesting.
Also, I know it's not rational, but I am turned off by the atrocities perpetrated against my people and others by the Japanese in the 20th century. I know this is not rational because the Soviets did some very horrible things, too (as Greg alludes to), but at least the purges were acknowledged.
Anyway... :-X
Lyubov choose Russia?
Color me shocked, shocked I say!
That's a tough one, but I'd ultimately settle with Russian. My mom would not find it amusing if I learned the language of the enemy. The Japs are hated by all other Asians, with good reason.
Quote from: The Harlequin King on December 31, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
That's a tough one, but I'd ultimately settle with Russian. My mom would not find it amusing if I learned the language of the enemy. The Japs are hated by all other Asians, with good reason.
But you're a Texan... and the Russians are.... well.... Russian! :O
Why shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Quote from: Kaesekopf on December 31, 2012, 02:40:22 PMBut you're a Texan... and the Russians are.... well.... Russian! :O
Texans don't feel strongly about Russians one way or the other. There aren't too many Russians around here. The funny thing about racism is that racism isn't really formed by total ignorance, but by bad impressions. If your only exposure to a race is via its uneducated underclass (illegal Mexican immigrants, for example), of course you're going to form some bad ideas about them. But if you have zero exposure to them at all, you're just neutral. It's why in Texas, a Mongolian is on better footing than an illegal Mexican. No one knows anything about Mongolians except maybe a thing or two about a cool guy called Genghis, so all you can do is nod and smile.
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 31, 2012, 02:55:50 PMWhy shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Yeah, but to my mom, learning Japanese is like a hobbit trying to learn the tongue of Mordor.
Japan. I can speak, read, and write Japanese already, having learned it in high school for four years. I believe the SSPX has a presence , albeit limited, in Japan. Bishop Williamson lead a pilgrimage at Our Lady of Akita just recently in fact. Japanese Catholics, even the Novus Ordo ones, wear veils with dedication, so it would easy to tradvert one. I prefer Japanese girls. Then again, I am Asian :). Russia has even less Catholics than Japan, being such a devout Orthodox nation.
Quote from: Christknight104 on December 31, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Japanese Catholics, even the Novus Ordo ones, wear veils with dedication, so it would easy to tradvert one.
I heard this about Korea, but not Japan.
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Quote from: Christknight104 on December 31, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Japanese Catholics, even the Novus Ordo ones, wear veils with dedication, so it would easy to tradvert one.
I heard this about Korea, but not Japan.
Judging from this photos, it can be concluded that the trend in Japan is similar to the trend in Korea
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I see. That's very good.
I would choose Japanese because I would like to be able to watch Anime with the original language.
Russian. Without question. Call me stupid, but i believe the Russian people ( not Gov't) may teach us about tradition.
Quote from: dust on December 31, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Russian. Without question. Call me stupid, but i believe the Russian people ( not Gov't) may teach us about tradition.
Where that's concerned, so could the Japanese.
Depends on which country we adopt from. The Russian way is rather barred to us at the moment -- they just made adoption by Americans illegal. If we adopt from Bulgaria, Russian won't do me much good. Not sure about Georgia.
Japanese would be cool -- I could read the rest of one of my favorite mangas. I have 15 out of 21 volumes -- but the American publisher went out of business before they translated the rest. I could buy the Japanese version, but it wouldn't do me much good currently.
Either way, I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time in a large city in any country. I'm just not a city girl for more than short visits.
I was leaning towards Russia but then I saw the boiling water winter post and I think I would rather be in Japan, preferably in a southern part of Japan.
Quote from: The Harlequin King on December 31, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 31, 2012, 02:55:50 PMWhy shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Yeah, but to my mom, learning Japanese is like a hobbit trying to learn the tongue of Mordor.
Haha
Why do other Asians hate the Japanese?
Quote from: Ben on January 01, 2013, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: The Harlequin King on December 31, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 31, 2012, 02:55:50 PMWhy shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Yeah, but to my mom, learning Japanese is like a hobbit trying to learn the tongue of Mordor.
Haha
Why do other Asians hate the Japanese?
They were the only Asian superpower to colonize other parts of Asia (China, Philippines, Korea, Okinawa). The Yellow Man's Burden.
Japanese women are total babes. Plus Japan's just awesome anyway. Ever since I saw Lost in Translation I've wanted to go there. It's a real tossup between Japanese and Russian, though.
Quote from: Ben on January 01, 2013, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: The Harlequin King on December 31, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 31, 2012, 02:55:50 PMWhy shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Yeah, but to my mom, learning Japanese is like a hobbit trying to learn the tongue of Mordor.
Haha
Why do other Asians hate the Japanese?
They conducted mass killings of Asian people, forced thousands of Asian women into sexual slavery, performed bizarre and cruel tortures on people for medical research, used biological and chemical warfare on civilians, and used forced labour from concentration camps. This was just 70 years ago.
I knew the Chinese hate them because of WWII, but it comes as a surprise that the hate spreads across Asia.
It must be some consolation to their enemies that they got two atom bombs dropped on them.
Quote from: Ben on January 01, 2013, 11:57:47 AM
I knew the Chinese hate them because of WWII, but it comes as a surprise that the hate spreads across Asia.
It must be some consolation to their enemies that they got two atom bombs dropped on them.
The funny thing about that is that this is one of the cities that the US dropped bombs on:
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=9388
Quote from: Ben on January 01, 2013, 11:57:47 AM
I knew the Chinese hate them because of WWII, but it comes as a surprise that the hate spreads across Asia.
It must be some consolation to their enemies that they got two atom bombs dropped on them.
If it had been division HQ there would be a legitimate discussion with the use of atomic, I would think. However, the purposeful annihilation of 100,000 old men, women and children is not acceptable in warfare.
I agree. Eustace Mullins wrote a good piece on the bombings: http://www.whale.to/b/mullins8.html
Quote from: Heinrich on December 30, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
If you were given a prize/gift with private tutoring, travel and living stipend in Russia or Japan with continued tutoring to fluency, which or the two would you learn?
Russian.
Japan is too ethnocentric. They do not allow people who are ethnically Korean to be considered "Japanese" even though they were born in Japan, speak Japanese, and always lived there.
Quote from: Pæniteo on January 01, 2013, 06:52:23 PMJapan is too ethnocentric. They do not allow people who are ethnically Korean to be considered "Japanese" even though they were born in Japan, speak Japanese, and always lived there.
Good point. It would be very difficult to gain any kind of insider status in Japanese culture.
Quote from: Pæniteo on January 01, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: Heinrich on December 30, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
If you were given a prize/gift with private tutoring, travel and living stipend in Russia or Japan with continued tutoring to fluency, which or the two would you learn?
Russian.
Japan is too ethnocentric. They do not allow people who are ethnically Korean to be considered "Japanese" even though they were born in Japan, speak Japanese, and always lived there.
I have heard that. But I do not disagree with it. There is nothing wrong with being proud and exclusive to one's ethnic homogeneity.
Quote from: Heinrich on January 02, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
I have heard that. But I do not disagree with it. There is nothing wrong with being proud and exclusive to one's ethnic homogeneity.
Considering the history of Japan and the extent of the discrimination, I think it is making ethnicity the definition of humanity. This nation is not just of Japanese individuals. They are not looking to marry their own ethnicity, or associate with them, but denying social status to people based solely on their genetic background.
This is not a matter of being isolated, but of having notions of superiority. Look at Japanese history. It was put over the Faith. Putting a domestic preference over everything else is backwards.
Quote from: Pæniteo on January 02, 2013, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Heinrich on January 02, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
I have heard that. But I do not disagree with it. There is nothing wrong with being proud and exclusive to one's ethnic homogeneity.
Considering the history of Japan and the extent of the discrimination, I think it is making ethnicity the definition of humanity. This nation is not just of Japanese individuals. They are not looking to marry their own ethnicity, or associate with them, but denying social status to people based solely on their genetic background.
This is not a matter of being isolated, but of having notions of superiority. Look at Japanese history. It was put over the Faith. Putting a domestic preference over everything else is backwards.
Yes, just like Nazism and another "-ism" that will not go mentioned here. What you explain I agree with. I am proud to be Scandinavian and Polish. If I were to open a Scandinavian/Polish restaurant, I would seek to hire those with these immutable characteristics to lend authenticity to the place. Lutefisk perogies anyone?
Quote from: Heinrich on January 02, 2013, 10:55:18 AMLutefisk perogies anyone?
Where's the "run for the hills" emoticon? :P
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Quote from: Heinrich on January 02, 2013, 10:55:18 AMLutefisk perogies anyone?
Where's the "run for the hills" emoticon? :P
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Quote from: Ancilla Domini on January 02, 2013, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Heinrich on January 02, 2013, 10:55:18 AMLutefisk perogies anyone?
Where's the "run for the hills" emoticon? :P
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Thank you!
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
That's a tough call. Both are relatively difficult for native speakers of English.
I'm surprised to see this comment. It seems to me that Japanese is significantly more difficult than Russian for native English speakers. Russian and English are both part of the Indo-European language family while Japanese is not. I would expect it to be easier to learn a related language than a non-related one.
I have studied Russian but not Japanese so I am unable to make a comparison from my personal experience.
Quote from: RealJayneK on January 02, 2013, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
That's a tough call. Both are relatively difficult for native speakers of English.
I'm surprised to see this comment. It seems to me that Japanese is significantly more difficult than Russian for native English speakers. Russian and English are both part of the Indo-European language family while Japanese is not. I would expect it to be easier to learn a related language than a non-related one.
I have studied Russian but not Japanese so I am unable to make a comparison from my personal experience.
Japanese has really easy grammar. I would say Japanese is much easier than Russian.
Quote from: RealJayneK on January 02, 2013, 08:48:14 PMI'm surprised to see this comment. It seems to me that Japanese is significantly more difficult than Russian for native English speakers. Russian and English are both part of the Indo-European language family while Japanese is not. I would expect it to be easier to learn a related language than a non-related one.
I have studied Russian but not Japanese so I am unable to make a comparison from my personal experience.
Over all Japanese is more difficult than Russian. But both are difficult, relative to Romance or Germanic languages, for native speakers of English. Russian has a complex grammar with many irregularities and a number of sounds that are foreign to English. Japanese has a relatively simple grammar and pronunciation, but a very complex system of pragmatics, not to mention several writing systems that can take a very long time to master. However it is possible to be become orally functional in Japanese very quickly, more quickly actually than in Russian. It all depends on how proficient you eventually want to be.
Quote from: Pæniteo on January 02, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
Quote from: RealJayneK on January 02, 2013, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 30, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
That's a tough call. Both are relatively difficult for native speakers of English.
I'm surprised to see this comment. It seems to me that Japanese is significantly more difficult than Russian for native English speakers. Russian and English are both part of the Indo-European language family while Japanese is not. I would expect it to be easier to learn a related language than a non-related one.
I have studied Russian but not Japanese so I am unable to make a comparison from my personal experience.
Japanese has really easy grammar. I would say Japanese is much easier than Russian.
Does that make up for the evils of learning Kanji? :P
Quote from: dust on December 31, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Russian. Without question. Call me stupid, but i believe the Russian people ( not Gov't) may teach us about tradition.
We also know it is one of the nations that will
not be annihilated. Otherwise it cannot be converted as Our Lady promised.
Japan might sink into the sea or become a radioactive wasteland.
Quote from: RealJayneK on January 02, 2013, 08:48:14 PMRussian and English are both part of the Indo-European language family while Japanese is not. I would expect it to be easier to learn a related language than a non-related one.
Though Japanese is not an Indo-European language, it has borrowed significantly from English and other European languages, so that there actually are a number of lexical cognates, far more than you would expect from a non-related language.
And Russian is actually considered more difficult than some non-Indo-European languages such as Indonesian, Malay, and Swahili, as per the FSI rankings:
http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
Russian has one advantage. If you can read it you can pronounce it correctly. There are no weird spellings or pronunciations of words that don't match the letters you're reading.
Quote from: Greg on January 02, 2013, 10:08:34 PM
Russian has one advantage. If you can read it you can pronounce it correctly. There are no weird spellings or pronunciations of words that don't match the letters you're reading.
Yes, and the Cyrillic alphabet is much easier to learn than most people imagine.
I learned the cyrillic alphabet quickly, it was the language that was hard.
Quote from: Lyubov on January 01, 2013, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: Ben on January 01, 2013, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: The Harlequin King on December 31, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on December 31, 2012, 02:55:50 PMWhy shouldn't you learn the language of the enemy? As per the once and unofficial motto of the Defense Language Institute: We learn Russian, so you don't have to! :D
Yeah, but to my mom, learning Japanese is like a hobbit trying to learn the tongue of Mordor.
Haha
Why do other Asians hate the Japanese?
They conducted mass killings of Asian people, forced thousands of Asian women into sexual slavery, performed bizarre and cruel tortures on people for medical research, used biological and chemical warfare on civilians, and used forced labour from concentration camps. This was just 70 years ago.
When I moved to the Philippines from Hawaii in 2009 I was shocked at how much the Filipinos still detest the Japanese because of what happened in WWII. The great irony here in Manila is that the Prior of the SSPX church in Manila, Fr. Onoda, is from Japan. The people here love him, which just goes to show that the Catholic Faith can unite people who otherwise have a deep seated distrust of certain ethnic groups. The fact that Fr. Onoda is a holy priest might have a lot to do with it too.
Memories of invading Manila still live on, my friend.
Russian, because when they invade I want to know what they're saying. And Russian chant and church slovonic are close enough to it.
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Quote from: Hawaii Five-0 on January 24, 2013, 10:49:19 PMWhen I moved to the Philippines from Hawaii in 2009 I was shocked at how much the Filipinos still detest the Japanese because of what happened in WWII. The great irony here in Manila is that the Prior of the SSPX church in Manila, Fr. Onoda, is from Japan. The people here love him, which just goes to show that the Catholic Faith can unite people who otherwise have a deep seated distrust of certain ethnic groups. The fact that Fr. Onoda is a holy priest might have a lot to do with it too.
In my experience, even people who are
actually racist (as opposed to just being called one in a Youtube comment box, say) make exceptions for people whom they perceive to be different. For example, a black guy who was clearly raised in a white suburb, only listens to white people music, and wears sweater-vests. By that point, he's become an honorary white person.
That's a trivial example, but I agree with you that the Catholic faith heals, or ought to heal, old tribal enmities. I assume that even Irish Catholics from the penal times thought Saint Thomas More was cool for a limey.
:lol: @ "cool for a limey."
Definitely Russian. My name is pronounced correctly every time in Russian. lol Also, they have such a fascinating history and culture.
Did you ever reach a decision, Heinrich?
(Hoping to catch you on a Sunday!) :)
Russian as I am eastern rite and Ive always wanted to visit russia. I actually lived in Japan when I was a very small boy..my memories are of the odor of fish and burning propane.....I actually watched Ultra-Man when it was a new show IN Japan...
that being said I think Japanese women are prettier....sometimes....then again Russian woman...oh never mind its lent.
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on February 17, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
Did you ever reach a decision, Heinrich?
(Hoping to catch you on a Sunday!) :)
Yes. French. ;D
Quote from: Heinrich on February 17, 2013, 03:49:17 PM
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on February 17, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
Did you ever reach a decision, Heinrich?
(Hoping to catch you on a Sunday!) :)
Yes. French. ;D
An excellent choice! :) But why?
Prayer.
God told you to learn French? Did He say why?
Quote from: Ancilla Domini on February 17, 2013, 07:02:18 PM
God told you to learn French? Did He say why?
No. And no. Did God tell you to become a professor of French?
Quote from: Heinrich on February 17, 2013, 07:04:36 PMNo. And no. Did God tell you to become a professor of French?
No, He didn't. I had my own reasons for learning French. I was hoping to hear yours. But I won't insist.
And I'm not actually a "professor of French".