Dimond video refuting Jay Dyer and denial of Divine Simplicity.

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Xavier

November 05, 2019, 06:07:08 AM
From Cathinfo, https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/jay-dyer-exposed-palamism-refuted/msg674083/?topicseen#msg674083

"Love them of hate them, the Dimonds address the issues pertinent to some of today's challenges that the crisis in the Church has presented such as the EO option. The Essence/Energies issue is a hot button topic in a lot of circles which are comprised of ex trad Catholics. The SSPX, CMRI, SSPV or any "groups" have failed to address this highly esoteric topic. They should, because it's a real danger."



Thoughts on the video? I just skimmed through it briefly and it seems fairly well researched. EOxy presents a false temptation for some Traditional Catholics - Traditional Catholics who sometimes later leave Christianity altogether, as Jay Dyer temporarily did for a while. It''ll be good if we can understand this temptation, take steps to aid Catholics struggling with the temptation of lapsing into the Photian Monopatrism, that denies the Immaculate Conception, and calls itself so-called "Orthodoxy", and work on overthrowing this heresy.
Bible verses on walking blamelessly with God, after being forgiven from our former sins. Some verses here: https://dailyverses.net/blameless

"[2] He that walketh without blemish, and worketh justice:[3] He that speaketh truth in his heart, who hath not used deceit in his tongue: Nor hath done evil to his neighbour: nor taken up a reproach against his neighbours.(Psalm 14)

"[2] For in many things we all offend. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man."(James 3)

"[14] And do ye all things without murmurings and hesitations; [15] That you may be blameless, and sincere children of God, without reproof, in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation; among whom you shine as lights in the world." (Phil 2:14-15)

Kreuzritter

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November 05, 2019, 10:55:00 AM
Claiming to refute.

Xavier

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November 05, 2019, 06:05:58 PM
Nope. Compellingly refuting.
Bible verses on walking blamelessly with God, after being forgiven from our former sins. Some verses here: https://dailyverses.net/blameless

"[2] He that walketh without blemish, and worketh justice:[3] He that speaketh truth in his heart, who hath not used deceit in his tongue: Nor hath done evil to his neighbour: nor taken up a reproach against his neighbours.(Psalm 14)

"[2] For in many things we all offend. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man."(James 3)

"[14] And do ye all things without murmurings and hesitations; [15] That you may be blameless, and sincere children of God, without reproof, in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation; among whom you shine as lights in the world." (Phil 2:14-15)

Kreuzritter

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November 06, 2019, 04:02:41 AM Last Edit: November 06, 2019, 05:00:34 AM by Kreuzritter
Quote from: Xavier on November 05, 2019, 06:05:58 PM
Nope. Compellingly refuting.

No. Another claim. And "compelling" is a subjective term.

Xavier

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November 07, 2019, 02:31:09 PM Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 02:53:00 PM by Xavier
Did you watch the video? It proves Divine Simplicity is Dogmatic from the Council of Ephesus. That's a sufficient refutation of Jay Dyer, beside his other warped and heretical behavior. One cannot learn of Divine things without making every effort striving to be holy. My brother Kreuzritter, I beseech you for love of your soul not to needlessly be led astray by people like Dyer in their polemical attacks against Holy Mother Church, but to spend at least 2 hours in prayer every day, going to Holy Mass, receiving Holy Communion, making a Holy Hour before the Blessed Sacrament in Eucharistic Adoration, and praying the complete Rosary, and God Himself will answer or clarify any doubts or questions you may have about the Faith.

God bless.
Bible verses on walking blamelessly with God, after being forgiven from our former sins. Some verses here: https://dailyverses.net/blameless

"[2] He that walketh without blemish, and worketh justice:[3] He that speaketh truth in his heart, who hath not used deceit in his tongue: Nor hath done evil to his neighbour: nor taken up a reproach against his neighbours.(Psalm 14)

"[2] For in many things we all offend. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man."(James 3)

"[14] And do ye all things without murmurings and hesitations; [15] That you may be blameless, and sincere children of God, without reproof, in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation; among whom you shine as lights in the world." (Phil 2:14-15)
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