Precise Definition for "in Communion with..." the Church and/or the Pope?

Started by Baldrick, November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM

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Baldrick

Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas? 

St.Justin

Quote from: Baldrick on November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080309122847/http://clsa.org/content/files/USCCB_memo_2006_0405.pdf see note 2 at the bottom (Romes answer)
"Full communion involves completeness of "those bonds of communion – faith, sacraments and pastoral governance – that permit the Faithful to receive the life of grace within the Church"

Daniel


Baldrick

Quote from: St.Justin on November 13, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Baldrick on November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080309122847/http://clsa.org/content/files/USCCB_memo_2006_0405.pdf see note 2 at the bottom (Romes answer)
"Full communion involves completeness of "those bonds of communion – faith, sacraments and pastoral governance – that permit the Faithful to receive the life of grace within the Church"

Thanks so very much; do you have anything prior to the 1960s by any chance? 

Prayerful

Quote from: Baldrick on November 14, 2018, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: St.Justin on November 13, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Baldrick on November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080309122847/http://clsa.org/content/files/USCCB_memo_2006_0405.pdf see note 2 at the bottom (Romes answer)
"Full communion involves completeness of "those bonds of communion – faith, sacraments and pastoral governance – that permit the Faithful to receive the life of grace within the Church"

Thanks so very much; do you have anything prior to the 1960s by any chance?

Wondering about that too. It does a sort of device for ecclesiastical political scheming in the post V2 world rather than something with any actual spiritual or theological meaning.
Padre Pio: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.

St.Justin

Quote from: Baldrick on November 14, 2018, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: St.Justin on November 13, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Baldrick on November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080309122847/http://clsa.org/content/files/USCCB_memo_2006_0405.pdf see note 2 at the bottom (Romes answer)
"Full communion involves completeness of "those bonds of communion – faith, sacraments and pastoral governance – that permit the Faithful to receive the life of grace within the Church"

Thanks so very much; do you have anything prior to the 1960s by any chance?

Still looking as my trad Priest ask for the same.

St.Justin

Quote from: Prayerful on November 14, 2018, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Baldrick on November 14, 2018, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: St.Justin on November 13, 2018, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Baldrick on November 13, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Greetings  :)

I was hoping that somewhere someone had authoritatively defined this phrase.

Any ideas?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080309122847/http://clsa.org/content/files/USCCB_memo_2006_0405.pdf see note 2 at the bottom (Romes answer)
"Full communion involves completeness of "those bonds of communion – faith, sacraments and pastoral governance – that permit the Faithful to receive the life of grace within the Church"

Thanks so very much; do you have anything prior to the 1960s by any chance?

Wondering about that too. It does a sort of device for ecclesiastical political scheming in the post V2 world rather than something with any actual spiritual or theological meaning.

I would like to find it too but this is such a logical statement and so straight forward that I don't think it requires anymore although I to am gunshy of post VII statements.