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Title: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Padraig on March 21, 2022, 11:26:36 AM
I hadn't been on the forum for about a year. When I came back there was this "new" member that I had no recollection of (although apparently he had been on here years ago), imperiously ordering everyone around, trying to curtail and direct every conversation, with strong opinions on how he believes the forum should best be run. I can't tell if he's actually a moderator or more of an "assistant to the general manager."
Title: Yet Another
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 21, 2022, 12:57:25 PM
Here we go again...

I hadn't been on the forum for about a year. When I came back there was this "new" member that I had no recollection of (although apparently he had been on here years ago), imperiously ordering everyone around, trying to curtail and direct every conversation, with strong opinions on how he believes the forum should best be run. I can't tell if he's actually a moderator or more of an "assistant to the general manager."

If you really cannot tell if I am a moderator or involved in running this forum, I am not.

Recall your post offering some off-topic assistance to another forum member (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27743.msg572362#msg572362):

Not to derail the thread into a Xavier-bashing session or a formatting lesson, but I thought I would offer Xavier a quick tip on formatting URLs:

You have made a thread that is a me-bashing session for the most part. If you had a question on forum policy, you might have done better to ask the admin directly or asked me directly rather than inviting people to post whatever accusation or grievance they had. This is not moderating: this is just regular user advice.
Title: Yet Another
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 21, 2022, 01:17:06 PM
I hadn't been on the forum for about a year. When I came back there was this "new" member that I had no recollection of (although apparently he had been on here years ago), imperiously ordering everyone around, trying to curtail and direct every conversation, with strong opinions on how he believes the forum should best be run. I can't tell if he's actually a moderator or more of an "assistant to the general manager."

It seems that your most recent activity is on a a thread in General Catholic Discussion (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27761.msg572789#msg572789) which concerns Sedevacantist statements and arguments. I made a few posts recently in replies to some comments like this. Yes, I generally openly protest such things outside the appropriate forum because it is potentially confusing and scandalous to people who are not interested or aware of that topic. There are many conclusions to the arguments (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27105.msg561210#msg561210) and I do not enforce the rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.0) here, but I use the forum because its policies are agreeable to me. There was a clarification on it (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27105.msg560791#msg560791) more recently.

There was a longer discussion on this previously (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27039.0).
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Heinrich on March 21, 2022, 01:51:02 PM
Greetings, brothers and sisters. I'm new on the forum, a young Christian man from Sweden.

This political thread is not the best for introductions, but welcome to the forum. You can introduce yourself to the forum for a better welcome than here (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0).

I know some Swedish, although, I'm very out of practice.
Title: Trolls and Diets
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 21, 2022, 01:58:45 PM
Yes, I was responding to a person introducing himself. What is wrong with that? Why are you so keen to find fault where none exists? Is this scandalous too (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27341.msg565441#msg565441)? That is where the user first introduced himself and I responded. People who introduce themselves on forums do tend to prefer welcoming responses. In fact, most users on forums, new or old, prefer such things.

I realize that being welcoming is probably foreign to you (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27270.msg564061#msg564061), but it is called being hospitable, affable, amiable, or "nice" or "not an abrasive uncharitable fascist (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27746.msg572145#msg572145)". 

Maybe it is unwise to respond at all to this thread: the fans of it are predictable. Maybe the trolls need to be put on a diet. So that is it. If someone has something useful to say about me, contact me directly. Otherwise, the regular crowd can do what they will here. It is a waste of time to interact with the deranged and demonic (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27708.msg571624#msg571624) usually.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: red solo cup on March 21, 2022, 03:39:45 PM
I hadn't been on the forum for about a year. When I came back there was this "new" member that I had no recollection of (although apparently he had been on here years ago), imperiously ordering everyone around, trying to curtail and direct every conversation, with strong opinions on how he believes the forum should best be run. I can't tell if he's actually a moderator or more of an "assistant to the general manager."
No Padraig, he most definitely is not a moderator. He used to post under the name Rosarium. He feels we aren't catholic enough.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Jayne on March 21, 2022, 03:47:15 PM
And here is yet another thread to complain about Joseph.  The crimes this time:  He expresses opinions on how a Catholic forum ought to be run and he gave a friendly greeting to a new member.

These threads seem to get more irritating and the charges more ridiculous as time goes on.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: red solo cup on March 21, 2022, 03:50:01 PM
And here is yet another thread to complain about Joseph.  The crimes this time:  He expresses opinions on how a Catholic forum ought to be run and he gave a friendly greeting to a new member.

These threads seem to get more irritating and the charges more ridiculous as time goes on.
Do you think it's all right to tell people they are demented or demonic or have a mental illness?
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Jayne on March 21, 2022, 04:02:34 PM
And here is yet another thread to complain about Joseph.  The crimes this time:  He expresses opinions on how a Catholic forum ought to be run and he gave a friendly greeting to a new member.

These threads seem to get more irritating and the charges more ridiculous as time goes on.
Do you think it's all right to tell people they are demented or demonic or have a mental illness?

When something is seriously wrong with the way that people are posting, those are the main logical possibilities to explain it.  From what I have observed most of the people that he identifies as problematic are actually so. 

Perhaps he could find a more tactful way to express himself, but many other posters here are not tactful and we do not have endless threads complaining about it.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Heinrich on March 21, 2022, 05:04:30 PM
I hadn't been on the forum for about a year. When I came back there was this "new" member that I had no recollection of (although apparently he had been on here years ago), imperiously ordering everyone around, trying to curtail and direct every conversation, with strong opinions on how he believes the forum should best be run. I can't tell if he's actually a moderator or more of an "assistant to the general manager."
No Padraig, he most definitely is not a moderator. He used to post under the name Rosarium. He feels we aren't catholic enough.

He has had four usernames here. And one defender/enabler who assesses, as he does, that everyone else is wrong.  Quite laughable.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Baylee on March 21, 2022, 05:16:56 PM
I highly recommend the ignore feature.
Title: Is Anybody a moderator?
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 03:10:39 AM
People have criticized me for denouncing evils, yet, they are strangely silent on those evils. If I have erred, surely one would demonstrate that those evils did not exist and thus my responses were wrong. But those who criticize those who denounce evils, while being silent on those evils, are almost certainly morally participating in those evils.

Catholic moral and dogmatic theology are far more important than any natural learning and certainly far more important than any opinions or speculations I have. In fact, if I were to put politics, opinions, and society above dogmatic and moral theology, I would have sinned. That is something I try to avoid: Declina a malo et fac bonum. It is a very literal and simple statement that we are all bound by precept to follow. I do what I can and it is not something I think is unreasonable for everybody to follow when it comes to grave matters (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27801.msg572874#msg572874).
Title: Is Anybody a moderator?
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 03:21:51 AM
And one defender/enabler who assesses, as he does, that everyone else is wrong.  Quite laughable.

There were/are many forum users who do not participate publicly because of things like this. Most people do not want to deal with the demonic or deranged online. The fact that a handful of people will persist in activity is not an indication of any particular connection. Many usually think I'm wasting time even trying to have any Catholic discussions on the forum though. They might be right, but I also know the readers of this forum who are largely silent greatly outnumber the active posters. Maybe posting is a good thing, but responding is futile. I have not reached a conclusion on that yet.

There are more users of this forum than those who take part in public discussions. This forum is a hub of connectivity for some Catholics, and it is a shame that so many do not want to participate on the public forum.
Title: No de Facto Mods
Post by: Heinrich on March 22, 2022, 02:36:35 PM
And one defender/enabler who assesses, as he does, that everyone else is wrong.  Quite laughable.

There were/are many forum users who do not participate publicly because of things like this. Most people do not want to deal with the demonic or deranged online. The fact that a handful of people will persist in activity is not an indication of any particular connection. Many usually think I'm wasting time even trying to have any Catholic discussions on the forum though. They might be right, but I also know the readers of this forum who are largely silent greatly outnumber the active posters. Maybe posting is a good thing, but responding is futile. I have not reached a conclusion on that yet.

There are more users of this forum than those who take part in public discussions. This forum is a hub of connectivity for some Catholics, and it is a shame that so many do not want to participate on the public forum.

Many do not want to participate due to spammy prigs.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 22, 2022, 04:02:36 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.  Not sure why this wasn't handled in a PM to the admin, or simply by reading the Forum Rules.  Alas.

This thread needs more Joseph-related threads.  Now that COVID is being wound down Russia-posting is all the rage, this nominally Catholic forum definitely needs topics unrelated to Catholicism.  :lol:
Title: Whackers
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 04:58:37 PM
This thread needs more Joseph-related threads. 

This is a strangely surreal statement.

Not that I would want to moderate this asylum, if you made me a moderator, it would take the wind out of these sorts of comments. Having one more inactive moderator wouldn't change anything.

But seriously, a lax moderator policy does have the effect of making this forum a honeypot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)) for the more unusual members of a community that is already on the fringe. I know you have expressed views that adults should not need moderating or that self-selected traditional Catholics (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=26998.msg558813#msg558813) shouldn't be like this, but the reality is, that this is the best way to get the most unusual characters.

Just work in a traditional Latin Rite parish or organization answering phones. I have personal knowledge of what goes on in that regard but for privacy I won't disclose any more publicly. It is enough to make one not want to admit to being a traditional Catholic readily.

This community of self-selected traditional Catholic adults is full of some extremely strange people. This is similar to any such self-selected fringe group, such as volunteer organizations. There is a term used in emergency volunteer organizations (ranging from fire, EMS, EmComm, Skywarn, etc) for individuals who are like this. They are called "Whackers". If you were running a volunteer emergency services forum and had the exact same approach to moderating, the forum would be dominated by whackers who would dissuade useful people from wanting to participate.

It is just the nature of human society.
Title: Re: Whackers
Post by: andy on March 22, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
I have personal knowledge of what goes on in that regard but for privacy I won't disclose anymore publicly.

Anymore? You disclosed personal and private info in the past?
Title: Quoth Andy: Anymore?
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 05:11:23 PM
Anymore? You disclosed personal and private info in the past?

The largest actual fault of mine recognized on this thread so far is a typo: the difference between anymore and any more. Thank you for the correction, but be aware, any unedited post of mine is likely to have many small errors. That is why most of my posts are edited shortly after posting.

But yes, either way, it is true. It is my own personal and private information. I am more careful now to control what I publicly publish than I used to be.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Heinrich on March 22, 2022, 05:16:07 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.  Not sure why this wasn't handled in a PM to the admin,

That doesn't seem to work
Title: Fixated
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 05:33:20 PM
I have personal knowledge of what goes on in that regard but for privacy I won't disclose anymore publicly.

Anymore? You disclosed personal and private info in the past?

You've had a period of inactivity and you resumed it with a correction of a single spacing issue in a middle of one of my posts on a thread someone made about me. Do you still doubt that you have an unhealthy fixation?

I am not fixating on you and probably read less then 10% of your posts anyways. It is you fixating on yourself thinking that everyone who disagree is fixating on you.

When I sometimes try to chime in in topics where emptiness of answers are staggering, like in this thread.
Title: Reading 101
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 22, 2022, 07:52:38 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.  Not sure why this wasn't handled in a PM to the admin,

That doesn't seem to work

The Rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.msg71766#msg71766) do contain the answer with the list of moderator(s). It is the third item in that section:

Quote from: The Rules
The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated.
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Baylee on March 23, 2022, 03:59:40 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.  Not sure why this wasn't handled in a PM to the admin, or simply by reading the Forum Rules.  Alas.

This thread needs more Joseph-related threads.  Now that COVID is being wound down Russia-posting is all the rage, this nominally Catholic forum definitely needs topics unrelated to Catholicism.  :lol:

This post explains a lot.
Title: Charges Ranked
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 24, 2022, 12:18:59 AM
These threads seem to get more irritating and the charges more ridiculous as time goes on.

I disagree: the most ridiculous charges are otherworldly (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg565670#msg565670) and I'm not even sure what the charges were precisely. That kind of bizarre and ridiculous claim would be hard to beat.

The previously most ridiculous one was that I am committing unspecified "atrocities" (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25867.msg539121#msg539121) here, along with two suspicions I am two other people besides myself (Kaesekopf), which he repeated (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27604.msg569558#msg569558).

The next most ridiculous is a hysterical outburst that claims my ability to use the regular forum features available to all people who can post could be used for "nefarious purposes and create undue hardship" (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27341.msg565441#msg565441) as well as being scandalous. This was bizarre on its own, but he called for me to be permabanned for being capable of posting scandalous things...while people who actually post scandalous things such as himself and a very disturbed individual (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27648.msg570440#msg570440) should be allowed on the forum. Plus, I was called a coward for...well, I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Charges Ranked
Post by: Jayne on March 24, 2022, 02:55:47 PM
These threads seem to get more irritating and the charges more ridiculous as time goes on.

I disagree: the most ridiculous charges are otherworldly (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg565670#msg565670) and I'm not even sure what the charges were precisely. That kind of bizarre and ridiculous claim would be hard to beat.

The previously most ridiculous one was that I am committing unspecified "atrocities" (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25867.msg539121#msg539121) here, along with two suspicions I am two other people besides myself (Kaesekopf), which he repeated (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27604.msg569558#msg569558).

The next most ridiculous is a hysterical outburst that claims my ability to use the regular forum features available to all people who can post could be used for "nefarious purposes and create undue hardship" (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27341.msg565441#msg565441) as well as being scandalous. This was bizarre on its own, but he called for me to be permabanned for being capable of posting scandalous things...while people who actually post scandalous things such as himself and a very disturbed individual (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27648.msg570440#msg570440) should be allowed on the forum. Plus, I was called a coward for...well, I'm not sure why.

There have been so many ridiculous accusations against you that it is beyond my ability to compare them manually.  I need to run them through an absurdometer.
Title: My Thread Still
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 24, 2022, 04:54:57 PM
There have been so many ridiculous accusations against you that it is beyond my ability to compare them manually.  I need to run them through an absurdometer.

I may get some bizarre accusations, but I only really remember the standouts. I still chuckle about the atrocities occasionally.

On the other hand, these sorts of things aren't so serious in themselves. I have used forums a lot (in the old days) and encountering clever trolls, the mentally ill, and other things are nothing special. I even had more than one person develop some sort of limerence for me based only on impersonal forum posts. The fact that this is (nominally) a traditional Catholic forum is what makes these things a problem, besides regular forum management.

The most objectionable posts to me are those which use knowledge of a person's background and use that a basis for public posts that are most inappropriate, heinous, and potentially scandalous to anybody viewing the forum. This is most problematic when it is men doing this to women, although, the antics of vicious women are a problem, it is easier to understand.

Vicious people imputing evil to people exercising or promoting virtue is nothing new. Such people have been scandalizing themselves (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27756.msg572345#msg572345) since the start. But to go beyond this to actually resemble a particular sort of hateful political ideology on this forum without any shame is nearly unbelievable.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: andy on March 25, 2022, 12:08:41 AM
 :pray1:
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 08:41:43 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

Forum Rules does not list name of moderators last time I checked. So who they are?
Title: Linked List
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 27, 2022, 09:11:19 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

Forum Rules does not list name of moderators last time I checked. So who they are?

Again, on this same page of posts, you can see my quote of the rules which include the list and the link to the rules themselves.

The Rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.msg71766#msg71766) do contain the answer with the list of moderator(s). It is the third item in that section:

Quote from: The Rules
The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated.
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.
Title: Re: Linked List
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 09:17:56 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

Forum Rules does not list name of moderators last time I checked. So who they are?

Again, on this same page of posts, you can see my quote of the rules which include the list and the link to the rules themselves.

The Rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.msg71766#msg71766) do contain the answer with the list of moderator(s). It is the third item in that section:

Quote from: The Rules
The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated.
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.

So, are you one of moderators of this Forum?
Title: Reading Comprehension
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 27, 2022, 09:22:05 PM
So, are you one of moderators of this Forum?

If you really cannot tell if I am a moderator or involved in running this forum, I am not.


The Rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.msg71766#msg71766) do contain the answer with the list of moderator(s). It is the third item in that section:

Quote from: The Rules
The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated.
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.
Title: Re: Reading Comprehension
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 09:41:53 PM
So, are you one of moderators of this Forum?
If you really cannot tell if I am a moderator or involved in running this forum, I am not.

Huh. Is it so hard to just say yes or no? Is it a game for you to play with other people? Besides, I asked the owner of this site, not you. No need to hijack every possible sub-thread.
Title: Yes
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 27, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Huh. Is it so hard to just say yes or no?
No.

Quote
Is it a game for you to play with other people?
No.

Quote
Besides, I asked the owner of this site, not you. No need to hijack every possible sub-thread.

This is the public forum and you wrote posted this while quoting one of my posts so it was, for all one could judge, a question directed at me:

So, are you one of moderators of this Forum?

So do not fault or accuse me of anything for answering a direct question you asked me.

I also cannot hijack a thread that is my own or about me. If the topic is mine or the topic is me, then how could I hijack it? A "sub-thread" is just a post on a thread, and it is bizarre to think that each individual post is directed only at particulars and it is a "hijacking" for others to respond. That is not how forums work.

As for the rest, if you want to ask the administrator something, contact him:

Not sure why this wasn't handled in a PM to the admin, or simply by reading the Forum Rules.

Title: Re: Yes
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 10:19:49 PM
Yes what?
Title: Fifth
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 27, 2022, 10:59:28 PM
Yes what?

So much for not reading my posts (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27801.msg573847#msg573847).

Anyway, I do think you are insane, at least, some of the time, and maybe responding to you is a form of game, but it was not intentional. I had no way of predicting that responding to a direct question would result in you saying you weren't asking me that question that you asked me about myself.

While you are not reading what I write, you once made a very strange (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27493.msg567886#msg567886) accusation that I condemn self-defense "quite often" and I don't know why you stated that at the time, but I could only find few passing references (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27135.msg561181#msg561181) and I did not condemn self-defense at all that I can find and you never followed up on this claim.

So, if you are under the impression that I have done things I have not done, I prepared a comprehensive examination of the morality of self-defense (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27867.msg573797#msg573797) earlier today.

It is not really an interesting topic, but it is a topic and it is easy to clear up. Of course, whether you revise your claims about me or comprehend it are another story. You have a pretty strong and consistent record of claiming things about me without any basis in reality and imputing error where none exists and not being able to comprehend simple answers to simple questions.

But that is you, not me, and at least the record will show the truth.
Title: Yes what?
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 11:13:25 PM
Yes what?

So much for not reading my posts (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27801.msg573847#msg573847).


This pertains to a specific question I asked Kaesekopf:


The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.
Forum Rules does not list name of moderators last time I checked. So who they are?

You interjected without being asked (the only reasonable explanation of doing so would be that you are indeed one of moderators) and this is the only reason I read those specific posts of yours in this thread. Is it clear enough?

Now, please respect this and let's wait what Kaesekopf says.
Title: Respect My Authority!
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 27, 2022, 11:18:58 PM
This pertains to a specific question I asked Kaesekopf:
Use of personal messages aside, do you think his answer would be any different? He already answered the question with referring to the Rules which lists the moderators and I already answered the question. Why ask it again?

Were you expecting answers to be different?

Quote
You interjected without being asked (the only reasonable explanation of doing so would be that you are indeed one of moderators) and this is the only reason I read those specific posts of yours in this thread. Is it clear enough?
It is clear you are not very lucid. I see no reason to think any user posting on the forum as any other user can is explained by being a moderator. That is such a bizarre thought.

Quote
Now, please respect this and let's wait what Kaesekopf says.

Respect what?

I'll wait to see what he says...but I wouldn't expect anything in particular. He is less prone to interacting with the insane on the forum repeatedly. If you really need him to answer the question of whether I am a moderator or not, you might want to send him a personal message.

As for this thread, it was made without respect and many responses on it were not concerned with respect, so I am using it the way I see fit.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: andy on March 27, 2022, 11:40:23 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

It does not seem to. Would update the rules with the current list of moderators?
Title: Forum Admin
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 01:19:37 AM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

It does not seem to. Would update the rules with the current list of moderators?

Who would update?

Remember, any thread or post about me is something is something I may respond to. You have a post title with my name with a question about me.

So, again, since the question was answered several times by more than one person:
Whether or not this suffices for you, I cannot tell, but these are clear rational answers to the question that was repeatedly asked and if you intend to have a personal correspondence with someone, you should contact them personally.

Anybody with a lucid mind would recognize that declaring a thread or post made about a person being somehow off-limits to that person is bizarre.

This thread, your post, calls me out by name and I will respond to it as I see fit and your commentary and accusations are meaningless: they are the mad rants of somehow who has a tenuous grasp on reality and logic.

Also, I am not fixated on you - I was just called out in this thread. Leave that thought out of your brain.

In any case, like with Xavier, I pretty much have stopped reading your posts all together. Good luck. Sincerely.

If you were sane, you could not possibly sincerely written this: you are fixated on me.

You repeatedly claim you don't read posts, as you seem to primarily read them, and you state you will ignore people, while you repeatedly respond to them and refer to them, and you go into a read only mode (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25867.msg539121#msg539121) which contains several publications which would be worthy of  moral rejection (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27330.msg565224#msg565224) for they take the form of things that would be grave sins. And it is not just me, it is Xavier (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27616.msg569655#msg569655), who you think a public thread telling him what to do on his own forum profile is somehow acceptable, but you think that if I respond to posts about me on the public forum, I am somehow playing the part of a moderator.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: andy on March 28, 2022, 01:23:08 PM
The moderator(s) are posted in the Forum Rules.

It does not seem to. Would update the rules with the current list of moderators?

Given last Joseph's cryptic statement:
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I am not a moderator of this forum at this time.

I expand the question to following: has he ever been moderator of this site in the past or are plans to have him in future?
Title: Cryptologist
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 01:42:30 PM
Given last Joseph's cryptic statement:
It was just a singular precise statement. It was not intended to be cryptic.

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I expand the question to following: has he ever been moderator of this site in the past or are plans to have him in future?
But now I think cryptic responses could be fun.

The answer to your expanded question is: I have not been a moderator of this forum in the past and there are no current plans to have me be a moderator in the future.

You may, however, want to realize there are more possibilities (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27849.msg573495#msg573495).



Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 28, 2022, 03:03:48 PM
PM replied to, but the Forum Staff are listed in the Rules, as Joseph quoted.

The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated. 
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.

I expand the question to following: has he ever been moderator of this site in the past or are plans to have him in future?

Negative, to both.
Title: Re: Is Andy a moderator?
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 03:27:59 PM
Negative, to both.

A double negative, eh?

Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Baylee on March 28, 2022, 04:05:55 PM
PM replied to, but the Forum Staff are listed in the Rules, as Joseph quoted.

The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated. 
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.

I expand the question to following: has he ever been moderator of this site in the past or are plans to have him in future?

Negative, to both.

So, I take the bolded to mean there is only one moderator? You?
Title: Unbecoming Belabouring
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 04:12:31 PM
I have never seen such a simple and clearly expressed thing belaboured so much.

The reference to this forum as a type of asylum is perhaps more appropriate than I thought.
Title: Re: Unbecoming Belabouring
Post by: Justin Martyr on March 28, 2022, 04:16:28 PM
I have never seen such a simple and clearly expressed thing belaboured so much.

You don't interact with protestants much, do you?
Title: Re: Unbecoming Belabouring
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 04:32:08 PM
You don't interact with protestants much, do you?

These days, no. But interacting with ideologies is different from interacting with insanity.

I have experience with both and this is very much one more than the other.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 28, 2022, 05:02:13 PM
PM replied to, but the Forum Staff are listed in the Rules, as Joseph quoted.

The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated. 
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.

So, I take the bolded to mean there is only one moderator? You?

Are there other ways of taking it?  :lol:
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Padraig on March 28, 2022, 05:20:25 PM
The inconsistency between plural and singular in the Forum Rules is a source of confusion, at the very least.

Unless you forgot to include your pronouns :lol:
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Baylee on March 28, 2022, 05:47:08 PM
PM replied to, but the Forum Staff are listed in the Rules, as Joseph quoted.

The Forum Staff:
1) The moderators must be respected. When moderating they will use an italicized dark green font. For example: Please remain calm and charitable during all debates. Arguing with their decisions will not be tolerated. 
2) If you have a concern with a moderator decision, private message a member of the staff to address your concern.
3) The Moderator of Suscipe Domine forum is also the Administrator, Kaesekopf.

So, I take the bolded to mean there is only one moderator? You?

Are there other ways of taking it?  :lol:

Well, "forum staff listed" implies a ... list...as in more than one person.  Also, it might be clearer  if there was a title of "moderator" below those members' names who are actually mods.
Title: Re: Unbecoming Belabouring
Post by: Heinrich on March 28, 2022, 05:51:57 PM
I have never seen such a simple and clearly expressed thing belaboured so much.

The reference to this forum as a type of asylum is perhaps more appropriate than I thought.

That’s insulting to pious and fine folk who post frequently here. Of course, you’ll be your inveterately insufferable and pedantic self in your reply. Can’t wait.
Title: Re: Is Joseph a moderator?
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 28, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
The inconsistency between plural and singular in the Forum Rules is a source of confusion, at the very least.

Unless you forgot to include your pronouns :lol:

:lol:

That's fair. 

I only recently updated it, and haven't gone through the rest of it for coherency.  Whoops!
Title: Prescribe vs Describe
Post by: TerrorDæmonum on March 28, 2022, 08:28:49 PM
It is difficult to believe that anybody was truly confused unless they chose to be.

This thread was started after I referenced your rules (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.0) and clarifications (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27105.msg560791#msg560791) in a discussion, that still remains (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=27761.msg572789#msg572789).

A forum is only defined by its stated policies to a degree: it is primarily defined by its activities. If one were to rewrite the forum rules and policies to describe the forum as it actually is in practice, they would be very different. The forum rules and policies should be prescriptive: moderator activity should bring forum activity in line with the stated description.

This forum is prescribed (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3891.msg71766#msg71766) one way as a primarily traditional Catholic forum, but it is described (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=26998.msg558813#msg558813) another way. Moderator activity is what dictates this. Users can only be blamed for their individual posts. Moderators may not be so responsible for each post so quickly, but they are ultimately responsible for all of them and the more they allow or disallow posts, the more they are responsible.

If people rely on moderator activity to know the boundaries, then they will act accordingly and use the "are you a moderator?" cliche when someone protests such things on the forum. It is very selectively done.