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Title: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: LausTibiChriste on January 08, 2024, 03:06:45 PM
Colour me shocked...

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Vatican's Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book

Last night, the Lepanto Institute obtained a photocopied version of a book published in 1998, written by Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, the prefect for the Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith.  Cdl. Fernandez is currently at the center of a major controversy regarding the permission to "bless" same-sex couples, and his book, "La Pasion Mistica," describes in graphic detail the events of male and female orgasms and compares those experiences with intimacy with God.  He also suggests that "God's grace can coexist" with homosexual acts under certain circumstances, blurs the line between males and females, and even provides transsexual and pederast imagery in relation to Divine Intimacy.

Online references to "La Pasion Mistica" are nearly impossible to find, and the Vatican's list of published works by Cdl. Fernandez has conspicuously omitted this book.  However, there are a few online resources which make reference to the book as far back as 2006.  For instance, an article appearing in the July 2006 issue of Revista Neustra America titled [in English] "Symbolic Images of Evil in the Mystical Discourse of New Spain," cites Fr. Victor Manuel Fernandez's book in relation to its explicit imagery regarding human orgasm.  On Feb. 6, 2012, a blog titled, "Books by Victor Manuel Fernandez" supplied a complete list of books written by him, including "La Pasion Mistica."  A search for the book's ISBN yielded shockingly few results, and while there is some acknowledgement of the book's existence by book sellers, the book could not be found for sale ANYWHERE.  And given the content of the book, it wouldn't be a stretch for one to believe that Fernandez had hoped to make it disappear as he was on his way to higher prominence.

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Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez on January 08, 2024, 04:20:20 PM
You mean it gets better (worse?) than the kissy book?
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: benedicite on January 09, 2024, 12:05:46 AM
And yet he is promulgating documents that forbid same sex marriage.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez on January 09, 2024, 07:42:21 AM
Anthony Stine did a very good job dealing with this while avoiding anything that might send a sensitive listener to the confessional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8GgWf-uCQc
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: drummerboy on January 09, 2024, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: benedicite on January 09, 2024, 12:05:46 AMAnd yet he is promulgating documents that forbid same sex marriage.

There's actually nothing contradictory in that.  The real, hard-core sodomists don't want to marry anyway.  It's not part of the "gay lifestyle."

 On another note, gotta love the irony of a bishop, currently head of what in days past would have managed the Holy Inquisition, promulgating behavior that would have seen him sentenced to death by that very Inquisition.  The hand of Satan is all over this. And how can he preserve the doctrine of the Faith when he is clearly blinded by perversity?  If Francis doesn't remove him he is just as complicit as well.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Greg on January 09, 2024, 10:40:44 AM
Why would Francis remove him?  He promoted him and made him a Bishop in mid-2013.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: drummerboy on January 09, 2024, 01:58:41 PM
Quote from: Greg on January 09, 2024, 10:40:44 AMWhy would Francis remove him?  He promoted him and made him a Bishop in mid-2013.

I'm not naive enough to assume he will either.  But that failure tells the world he approves of gay porn writing bishops  :ack:
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Greg on January 09, 2024, 10:20:44 PM
We already know that.

The world approves of gay porn writing bishops too.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: clau clau on January 10, 2024, 08:12:16 AM
Quote from: drummerboy on January 09, 2024, 01:58:41 PM
Quote from: Greg on January 09, 2024, 10:40:44 AMWhy would Francis remove him?  He promoted him and made him a Bishop in mid-2013.

I'm not naive enough to assume he will either.  But that failure tells the world he approves of gay porn writing bishops  :ack:

Q. How do you know the world has gone crazy?

A. The Pope introduces you to a word which you did not know - or were ever likely to know - the meaning of: Coprophilia.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Severinus on January 10, 2024, 05:05:45 PM
Sex magic is the traditional Catholic teaching of St. JP2's Theology of the Body. Get used to it bigots.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Jmartyr on January 14, 2024, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: Greg on January 09, 2024, 10:40:44 AMWhy would Francis remove him?  He promoted him and made him a Bishop in mid-2013.
Along the lines of Francis bringing the disgraced Mccarrick back on the scene before caving under the public scrutiny.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Fursey on January 14, 2024, 11:14:01 AM
He and Pope Francis go way back, apparently. He had to have known about this book
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Joseph_3 on January 15, 2024, 08:54:59 AM
>compares those experiences with intimacy with God

A common position that exists in fringe heresies are that they will replace grace with sex somewhere in their doctrine. This is the signature of Satan. However, these people are not Catholics nor are they even astray Christians. They are deliberately hostile toward Jesus Christ and His Church. Referring to this man as a CDL. is a mockery and he has plainly shown us what fruit he bears.

When Jesus Christ informed us that "And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Matt 5) what do you suppose he meant? Did he command us to mutilate our flesh?

No. Rather, he spoke about the body of the Church, which we are all members. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. And For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. (1 COR 12 and Romans 12, written by the Apostle and servant of God)

Christ warns us in the earliest section of His Gospel that any single member can drag the entire body into damnation. The Church is not immune to radical anti-Christian policy being forced through it's ranks by those diseased members. In doing so they weaken the rest the entire body and bring each member to a state of malaise. Our Christ calls us to ruthlessly discern our members; the hands, the feet, the eyes even, and remove that which is not in conformation with the one path of Truth delivered to us by God. If this request is not followed decisively then our reward will be increasingly intensified versions of what we see now in the Church.
Title: Re: Vatican’s Chief Guardian of Doctrine Wrote Pornographic, Blasphemous Book
Post by: Bonaventure on March 19, 2024, 12:27:03 PM
It doesn't read like the writings of a celibate clergyman.