Cultural Christians. The great lie of our time.

[Greg]

People can have christian values and not be strictly religious you understand that right? The British upbringing and history is based on Christian values. Religion is shared through schooling, culture, weddings and deaths as well as our mortality is part of growing up.

How can any religion be 'shared' if it is unknown by those who pretend to share it?

What would a football supporter make of a person who claimed to be a "fan" but could not name any of the players, the manager, or how many times the team had won the cup?

No, that's called being a fake Christian and specifically denounced by Christ.  A man cannot serve two masters.

You cannot have your cake and eat it.

Such a culture invites God's curse on itself.  This is abundantly clear from the Gospel.  If you had ever bothered to read them.

God despises the lukewarm and vomits them from His mouth.

[Greg]

https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/2024/elon-musk-says-hes-a-cultural-christian--why-some-leading-thinkers-are-embracing-christianity/


Is it worse to be a cultural Christian than reject Christianity altogether?

I would think it was.  Christ very specific in his condemnation of the lukewarm.

To say something has social value but reject the claims of the God who gave it that value is impious in the extreme.

[Greg]

Googling I found this.

https://www.prestburystmarys.co.uk/British-Values-and-Christian-Values-at-Prestbury-S/

Surely it is better to live under the sword of Islam that this theological potpourri of trite nonsense.

[james03]

Is it worse to be a cultural Christian than reject Christianity altogether?

I think this ties into our intense dislike of sheeple, clapping seals, and NPCs.  People who are not otherwise woke nutters, however when told to wear a cloth muzzle, they dutifully wear it while driving their car alone.  You look at such pathetic, detestable creatures and think, "You deserve what's coming to you, and more.".

Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged, perfectly captured this phenomenon in the Train Tunnel Explosion scene, where she lists the backgrounds and beliefs of all the "innocent" people who died in the accident in the book.

[james03]

As far as this phenomenon, which I've also recently noticed, including the midwit atheist biologist Richard Dawkins, I believe it is due to natural Nationalist tendencies that can't be completely removed from people.  Their subconscious inner brain is raising red flags that a different group is encroaching on their lands, and is killing them and their children.  The instinctual response is to band together with your tribe.

Except Dawkins and others don't have a tribe.  They are of the Former West, and are not Westernese.

So they are either trying to invent a new tribe, based on a foundation of sand, or trying to feign enough "Christianity" to be accepted amongst the Westernese.  This is all subconcious and instinctual, at least the motivation.

8 And the foolish said to the wise: Give us of your oil, for our lamps are gone out.  9 The wise answered, saying: Lest perhaps there be not enough for us and for you, go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.  10 Now whilst they went to buy, the bridegroom came: and they that were ready, went in with him to the marriage, and the door was shut.

 11 But at last come also the other virgins, saying: Lord, Lord, open to us.  12 But he answering said: Amen I say to you, I know you not.

And so we say to them, "We know you not.".

One final thing, it is important if you are in a comment section to define "the West" and "Western".  Merely reply that first you have to define the West, and then write the definition:

1. Catholic Faith
2. Greek Realism
3. Roman Patriarchy
4. Roman Rule by Law.

It really triggers them when faced with the truth: what the West is, and the fact that they are not Westernese.  The Reeeeeeee's are glorious to behold.

[Miriam_M]

Technically, we could all call ourselves cultural Christians when we are not working toward personal Sainthood.
 

[Michael Wilson]

The old term was: "Sunday Catholics", when all Catholics went to Mass on Sunday.

[clau clau]

Q: What do you get if you cross a Catholic and a punk rocker?

A: Smells and Bells like teen spirit. 

context: for @Frank

[Greg]

Is it worse to be a cultural Christian than reject Christianity altogether?

I think this ties into our intense dislike of sheeple, clapping seals, and NPCs.  People who are not otherwise woke nutters, however when told to wear a cloth muzzle, they dutifully wear it while driving their car alone.  You look at such pathetic, detestable creatures and think, "You deserve what's coming to you, and more.".

Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged, perfectly captured this phenomenon in the Train Tunnel Explosion scene, where she lists the backgrounds and beliefs of all the "innocent" people who died in the accident in the book.

I will have to reread that.

[Greg]

Technically, we could all call ourselves cultural Christians when we are not working toward personal Sainthood.
 

Not really.  I think if you attend church weekly, know the 10 Commandments, can recite a creed which you believe in then you are a Christian.  There's a bare minimum to qualify, just as there is for a plumber or track athlete.  Most self described 'cultural Christians' could not pass a test on Christianity that a 7 year old Sunday school student would waltz.  Clearly then they are no kind of Christian, cultural or otherwise.

[TradGranny]

The old term was: "Sunday Catholics", when all Catholics went to Mass on Sunday.

Way back when he was 12 or 13, my husband sold Sunday newspapers as people came out of Mass. They obtained additional papers for Easter, Christmas and Trinity Sunday, for what they called the ETC Catholics.

[Jacafamala]

A&P only Catholics: Ashes and Palms. The only time they go.

[james03]

I will have to reread that.

Here's a snippet:

It is said that catastrophes are a matter of pure chance, and there were those who would have said that the passengers of the Comet were not guilty or responsible for the thing that happened to them.

The man in Bedroom A, Car No. 1, was a professor of sociology who taught that individual ability is of no consequence....
The woman in Bedroom D, Car No. 10, was a mother who had put her two children to sleep in the berth above her, carefully tucking them in, protecting them from drafts and jolts; a mother whose husband held a government job enforcing directives, which she defended by saying, "I don't care, it's only the rich that they hurt. After all, I must think of my children."

The man in Roomette 3, Car No. 11, was a sniveling little neurotic who wrote cheap little plays into which, as a social message, he inserted cowardly little obscenities....

 
This description closed with the observation that

    there was not a [passenger] aboard the train that did not share one or more of their ideas

https://www.conservapedia.com/Taggart_Tunnel