Vaccine Passports - use this thread to provide info on new restrictions

[diaduit]

Regardless of your positions, it is hardly a charitable act to call another member a useful idiot, someone in denial, etc because she does not agree with you. Much of what's being stated on this forum is conspiracy theories, rumors, conjecture, and speculation and best.

Nobody knows. The truth will reveal itself in time.
At this point we are at an impasse. There's no point in posting sources to my posts, as you would not believe them.

This is my last post here. For a traditional forum, I would think it's members would be less condescending and insulting. We are all here because we love God and Traditions of the Church, not to win arguments.

Peace to all.

That poster has been sneering at anyone who is against taking the vaccine and again you do a wide swipe at posters saying its conspiracy theories etc and again no link to ANY sources contradicting the so called theories.

Ye need to look in the mirror at who is insulting.

[diaduit]

Oh help us please, Ireland in full level 5 lockdown until the end of June....we've had no significant deaths from it in weeks.

A hearty Ave for you & yours.  What does full level lockdown mean for you exactly??

No further than 5km from your house except for essential reasons
Non essential shops, hair salons, restaurants, pubs closed.  This time click and collect was banned so small businesses couldn't even take orders over the phone.  Supermarkets non essential items taped off to public access.
No household visits even in gardens.
No masses allowed, churches open for private prayer only and even then its either 5 or 10 max can attend. Weddings was 10 I think and funerals something similar. 

Next week its easing a bit, not being extended to June.  The Gov are realising they are overreaching and the mob is about to get angry.  WE will be allowed to travel within our county but still businesses remain closed until May and weddings and funerals can have 25 attendees. 

That being said, there is a shift in attitude and people aren't obeying lockdown as much as they used to.  My friends a hairdresser and she is getting calls from clients for appt.   Stay the eff at home is non existent now thankfully.  However, they think the only way out is the vaccine.

[Elizabeth.2]

THANK YOU, Diaduit, I pray for the Irish Remnant to keep St. Patrick's Lorica ever in mind and heart.  May you be invisible to your enemies.  I read somewhere that 27 had been arrested for protesting lockdown somewhere in Ireland.

[TradGranny]

Much of what's being stated on this forum is conspiracy theories, rumors, conjecture, and speculation and best.

Au contraire all of what I have posted has come from medical journal articles, medical doctors and legitimate news outlets.

It is typical of those using the defense mechanism of denial (cognitive dissonance) to
1. refuse to read opposing views
2. label the unread material as "conspiracy theory."

Sad.

Nor is it in any way uncharitable to speak the truth in order to help others avoid a "vaccine" which is not approved by the FDA.

[diaduit]

THANK YOU, Diaduit, I pray for the Irish Remnant to keep St. Patrick's Lorica ever in mind and heart.  May you be invisible to your enemies.  I read somewhere that 27 had been arrested for protesting lockdown somewhere in Ireland.

You're a sweetheart thank you.  Yes the Guards (whom I believe are hired thugs and not actual Guards) have been brutal to protestors, mainly in Dublin.  I think the Gov realised they were overreaching and are now easing back on restrictions but I won't let my guard down.  They will pull the rug from under us closer to vaccine roll out for the ordinary joe citizen (not essential worker, frontline or vulnerable) which is the main body of the population, somewhere around June.

I had been wearing a scarf, I do anyway for most of the year and pulling it up above my nose to get into a shop and then oops letting it fall once I'm in but now I'm fed up with this.  I'm back with no face covering and not getting any hassle.  I think the 'karens' are loosing their original gusto.

[Elizabeth.2]

The Gusto of Karens 

[lauermar]

May I remind you that the FDA approved of the pilot studies for the Covid vaccines under emergency use authorization in a pandemic. The government has long had the ability to do this. Furthermore, doctors have long had the ability to prescribe various medications for off-label use before the official indication is approved by the FDA, when it is prudent to do so. For example, Plaquenil is a very old drug indicated for malaria treatment but has been found to be an effective modulator of the inflammatory cascade. Lately, it is being used off-label to reduce life threatening inflammation in severe viral infections such as Covid-19, when the benefits outweigh the risks.

After any drug or vaccine is approved, post-marketing surveillance continues as long as it is still available. This is because serious side effects can show up 10 years post-launch. Do not think for one minute that FDA approval of any product carries an automatic guarantee of safety for a lifetime. Every treatment is an ongoing experiment.

Some of the sources you claim are legitimate medical articles are not. They are heavily biased, written by quacks. Anything you do post that's halfway legitimate,  you misinterpret.
You have not once linked to *any* of the original pilot studies in Israel which are large and have shown efficacy and safety. That's your own personal bias.

Enough with your relentless babble against the Covid vaccine.

[diaduit]

May I remind you that the FDA approved of the pilot studies for the Covid vaccines under emergency use authorization in a pandemic. The government has long had the ability to do this. Furthermore, doctors have long had the ability to prescribe various medications for off-label use before the official indication is approved by the FDA, when it is prudent to do so. For example, Plaquenil is a very old drug indicated for malaria treatment but has been found to be an effective modulator of the inflammatory cascade. Lately, it is being used off-label to reduce life threatening inflammation in severe viral infections such as Covid-19, when the benefits outweigh the risks.

After any drug or vaccine is approved, post-marketing surveillance continues as long as it is still available. This is because serious side effects can show up 10 years post-launch. Do not think for one minute that FDA approval of any product carries an automatic guarantee of safety for a lifetime. Every treatment is an ongoing experiment.

Some of the sources you claim are legitimate medical articles are not. They are heavily biased, written by quacks. Anything you do post that's halfway legitimate,  you misinterpret.
You have not once linked to *any* of the original pilot studies in Israel which are large and have shown efficacy and safety. That's your own personal bias.

Enough with your relentless babble against the Covid vaccine.

BTW Plaquenil.....aka Hydroxychloroquine.

Re quacks and research being non credible....cite your sources or shut up.

[TradGranny]

Some of the sources you claim are legitimate medical articles are not. They are heavily biased, written by quacks. Anything you do post that's halfway legitimate,  you misinterpret.

Please cite specific examples.

[Prayerful]

Will I get my vax pass if I get the Joe jab (see above)?

[TradGranny]

Vaccine Passports: One Passport to Rule Them All
Published 6 days ago on April 21, 2021
By Makia Freeman
AT A GLANCE...

    THE STORY:

    Vaccine passports have arrived in many nations in various forms. They have different names but one thing in common: discrimination against those who stand for bodily autonomy and medical sovereignty.
    THE IMPLICATIONS:

    If humanity continues to buy into the COVID op and allows the widespread rollout of this control scheme, life will become even more restrictive for those who have seen through the agenda.

vaccine passports

There are many vaccine passports either proposed or in effect, but they all have the same goal: to restrict the movement of the unvaccinated, as well as to provide a registry of the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Vaccine passports

are a major goal of those orchestrating Operation Coronavirus, though not the ultimate end goal of the COVID agenda. The purpose of vaccine passports is clear, despite whatever flimsy and mealy-mouthed excuses given to justify them: to restrict the movement of the unvaccinated, or in plainer terms, to restrict the movement of those who have seen through the agenda. There are no clever legal arguments that can distract from this basic truth: vaccine passports are inherently discriminatory. In a sane society, no nation that even pays lip service to caring about human rights could claim that vaccine passports are in alignment with their existing laws on individual rights, freedom of choice, freedom of movement, informed consent and medical sovereignty. However, it hardly bares stating that we do not live in a sane world. Below is a brief list of the vaccine passport schemes that are either proposed, about to be rolled out or already in existence. This is a worldwide agenda being rapidly promoted and implemented.
EU Planned for Vaccine Passports in 2018

Long before the word 'coronavirus' become a household world, or the term 'COVID' even existed, the European Union (EU) was planning for a vaccine passport scenario. The European Commission (the executive arm of the EU) published a proposal for vaccine passports on April 26th 2018 in a document entitled "Proposal for a Council Recommendation on Strengthened Cooperation against Vaccine Preventable Diseases". It lays out the plan for a "vaccine passport" or "vaccine card" and "vaccine portals":

    "HEREBY WELCOMES THE COMMISSION'S INTENTION TO:

    17. Examine issues of insufficient vaccine coverage caused by cross-border movement of people within the EU and look into options to address them, including developing a common EU citizens' vaccination card/passport, compatible with electronic immunisation information systems and recognised for use across borders.

    ...

    HEREBY WELCOMES THE COMMISSION'S INTENTION TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS, IN CLOSE COOPERATION WITH THE MEMBER STATES:

    10. Aim at establishing a European Vaccination Information Sharing (EVIS) system, coordinated by the European Centre for Diseases Prevention and Control (ECDC), in order to:

    a. Together with the national public health authorities,

    i. examine the options of establishing, by 2020, guidelines for a core EU vaccination schedule, aiming to facilitate the compatibility of national schedules and promote equity in Union citizens' health protection, and subsequently ensuring broad uptake of the core schedule as well as a common vaccination card;

    ii. strengthen the consistency, transparency, and methodologies in the assessment of national and regional vaccination plans, by sharing scientific evidence and tools with the support of National Immunization Technical Advisory Groups (NITAGs);

    iii. design EU methodologies and guidance on data requirements for better monitoring of vaccination coverage rates across all age groups, including healthcare workers, in cooperation with the World health Organisation (WHO). Collect such data and share them at EU level;

    b. By 2019, establish a European vaccination information portal, with the support of the European Medicines Agency, to provide online objective, transparent and updated evidence on vaccines, their benefit and safety, and the pharmacovigilance process.

    c. Monitor online vaccine misinformation and develop evidence-based information tools and guidance to support Member States in countering vaccine hesitancy, in line with the Commission Communication on tackling online disinformation."

Interestingly, on pg.13, this document also mentions the term vaccine hesitancy as it recommends a "Joint Action on Vaccination, co–funded by the third Programme for the Union's action in the field of health ... to address vaccine hesitancy." Vaccine hesitancy has also become a theme in the COVID op because so many people have become aware of just how toxic vaccines can be and how experimental these ones are in particular; in my article from August 2020 I revealed how a Yale study was analyzing how to combat vaccine hesitancy and increase vaccine uptake through a variety of psychological techniques and manipulation.
European Vaccine Passports

Given the above documents, it's no great surprise that Europe is at the forefront of implementing vaccine passports. The UK and many European countries are getting close to rolling out their passport scheme; on March 17th 2021, the European Commission proposed the following draft legislation to create a "Digital Green Certificate" as you can see from this document. In a classic example of doublepseak, Commissioner for Justice, Didier Reynders, said:

    "With the Digital Green Certificate, we are taking a European approach to ensure EU citizens and their family members can travel safely and with minimum restrictions this summer. The Digital Green Certificate will not be a pre-condition to free movement and it will not discriminate in any way. A common EU-approach will not only help us to gradually restore free movement within the EU and avoid fragmentation."

No pre-condition for movement? Not discriminate in any way? The very essence of the vaccine passport is regulate and restrict movement, as well as to discriminate. Otherwise, what is the point of it? This is a constant theme of the COVID op. Politicians make rules to control your life, and right when they announce these rules, they claim they are not controlling you. Black is white, up is down and tyranny is freedom.
American Vaccine Passports

They're coming to America too. The US state of New York was the first state to introduce a pilot program. Authorities have said it's optional, but that's how all these schemes of control initially work; first they're optional to break down resistance and get people accustomed, and then they're mandatory. New York is calling its vaccine passport the "Excelsior Pass" and the official announcement states:

    "Developed in partnership with IBM, the Excelsior Pass will use proven, secure technology to confirm an individual's vaccination or a recent negative COVID-19 test through a confidential data transfer to help fast-track the reopening of theaters, stadiums and other businesses in accordance with New York State guidelines...The Excelsior Pass will play a critical role in getting information to venues and sites in a secure and streamlined way, allowing us to fast-track the reopening of these businesses and getting us one step closer to reaching a new normal."

On the upside, there are certain states which have preemptively banned vaccine passports in some form or another, including Florida, Texas, Arizona, Montana and Idaho. As for much of the duration of the COVID op, support or resistance to vaccine passports is mostly following party lines, with the left-wing Democratic states supporting it and the right-wing Republican states resisting it.
Vaccine Passports in Israel, China and India

Israel has earned itself another dubious distinction by leading the world in COVID vaccination rates, and by already implementing its vaccine passport program. Unvaccinated Israelis are being banned from going to so-called non-essential places. Tyrannical Israeli Health Minister Yuli Edelstein warned:

    "Whoever doesn't vaccinate will only go out to supermarkets or pharmacies, while the vaccinated will go to stadiums and gyms."

The tyranny doesn't stop there. Israel has also issued "Freedom Bracelets" to be worn by those entering the country from abroad. Israel's parliament joined action taken previously by the Spanish government in approving a law to create a registry of people refusing the COVID vax. Interestingly, UK Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove was recently seen arriving in Israel for what they say was "vaccine passport talks" but in reality, from those who know the backstory of the Zionist New World Order (NWO), was likely his marching orders.

China and India have both joined the vaccine passport game. China called their version the "International Travel Health Certificate" (downloadable from its WeChat mobile app) while India has a QR code certificate version.
One Passport to Rule Them All

No matter what fancy and different names these passports, apps and QR codes have, there are plans afoot to link them all via a common software or framework. The leading developers of this technology include AOK Pass, Common Pass, the Vaccination Credential Initiative, Good Health Pass Collaborative and the IATA Travel Pass. This is a clear manifestation of the NWO Agenda of a One World Government with detailed information on every single person (except for the ruling elite) on Earth, who are planned to be its subjects or slaves.

This has been a long time coming. It seems like a long time ago now – over a year ago – when Bill Gates started mouthing off about the need for immunity certificates and digital vaccine passports. The plan is not hidden, but rather wide out in the open. Of course, there is a distinct lack of logic about the whole issue. First of all, as I have exhaustively documented, there is no evidence that the virus SARS-CoV-2 exists. But putting that inconvenient truth aside for a moment, why couldn't natural immunity to the virus qualify you for the vaccine passport? Mainstream brainwashed medical authorities may say it's because you can still get re-infected. However the same goes for the vaccine ... hence all the talks of a 2nd and 3rd shot (actually the plan is to give people countless shots as they upgrade and rewire their DNA operating system). This is the very same group of vaccines which by the way don't give you proper immunity and are even admitted to only protect against mild symptoms and not to stop transmission.

It's not about actual real immunity to disease. It's about finding out who is vaccinated and who is unvaccinated, and subsequently punishing the non-compliant, disobedient, recalcitrant unvaccinated ones.

For those who want their shiny new vaccine passport – think about this. What happens when the authorities say that you have to keep getting vaxxed ... and vaxxed ... and vaxxed ... every year ... just to keep your passport and privileges? Are we going to stand in our inherent soveriegn rights or grovel beneath the slavemasters for government-bestowed privileges?
Final Thoughts

The truth is that vaccine passports are a scheme to force people into getting vaxxed so that they become genetically modified humans. The vaccine is the real bioweapon, not an imaginary virus. The vaccine passports will function to make life uncomfortable for the unvaccinated, and also as a registration system to distinguish between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, so the NWO controllers know exactly which citizens have certain nanotechnology embedded inside of them – which you can be sure will be used to further whatever nefarious goals the NWO manipulators have in mind.

*****

Makia Freeman is the editor of alternative media / independent news site The Freedom Articles,

[andy]

I have heard that Germany makes it easier for foreign jabbed to enter their territory now without a quarantine https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fully-vaccinated-germans-be-exempt-quarantine-minister-2021-05-03/ . Not a new restriction per se though.

[Christe Eleison]

Great thread! Thank you, for starting this, MG. I was about to start one when I found this gem!


1) Los Angeles County, California. Vaccine Passports required to enter grocery stores.

2) New York City, NY. Requires Vaccine Passports for everything EXCEPT grocery stores

3) Chile, South America. Will require Vaccine Passports to enter Churches, once they reopen

4) France, according to a couple of videos I saw, requires vaccine passports to enter a grocery store



Good news, 12 states in the US have issued BANS on Vaccine Passports:

Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Indiana, Florida, Georgia, Utah, Arizona, South Carolina,
Texas, Iowa, Alabama.

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6256180976001#sp=show-clips

Worth keeping abreast of this because it looks likely to me that these will be used not just to coerce people into accepting a vaccination so that they can travel but also so they can attend events, go into certain types of businesses or be employed.  They will keep turning the thumbscrews.  Right now, if you look at any YouTube video on this topic it has a 1 to 10 like to dislike ratio.  In other words people hate the idea of Covid passports.

However there are a number of dynamics at play.  People who have the jab are HIGHLY unlikely to support the rights of people who refuse the vaccine jab.  As they post social media messages about their foreign holiday or trip to the theatre, more people will cave under pressure and then they will be silent about the fact that there were against the jab.  I discussed this with friends and we think this will be a divide an conquer technique that will very likely work.  Note that a huge number of people are wearing masks in supermarkets, far higher than the number of people who believe Covid is a threat to them.  So the tendency is for people to cave to pressure and go along to get along.

In the end how many hold outs will there be?

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It's becoming clearer that in the not-too-distant future, international travellers will require some sort of vaccine passport or vaccine certificate, as a growing number of countries get behind the idea. The appeal is that these documents would allow countries to clear travellers upon entry without the need for quarantining and testing requirements.

While the United States government has not yet indicated support for a vaccine passport, there are signs that the new administration is pondering it.

On his full first day in office, President Biden revealed his 200-page national pandemic strategy with seven goals aimed at ending the Covid-19 pandemic. Buried deep in the report, on page 181, is a directive for multiple government agencies to work together to "assess the feasibility" of linking Covid-19 vaccinations to international vaccination certificates and producing electronic versions of them.

Over the past few weeks in Europe, vaccine certification programs have been building up a head of steam.

The United Kingdom is preparing a certification system that would allow inoculated citizens to travel abroad this summer, reported the London Times today. British Foreign Office Minister James Cleverly told BBC Radio 4's Today program it was "not an uncommon practice" for countries to require documentation on inoculations and that the UK government would work with international partners on this.

Last month, Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Union Commission, said that she supports creating a common EU-established vaccination certificate that can be issued by member states to their citizens. Von der Leyen even suggested that such a certificate should be a "medical requirement."

She was responding to a letter from Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, in which he called upon the European Commission to introduce a standardized coronavirus vaccination certificate to facilitate travel within the European Union bloc.

While they wait for an EU-wide vaccination certificate to become available, some European Union member states are already or will soon be issuing their own certificates to citizens who have been vaccinated against Covid-19.

On January 21, Iceland became the first European country to provide Covid-19 vaccination certificates to citizens who have received two doses of the vaccine. Iceland will recognize similar vaccination certificates that are issued from any EU or Schengen country.

This week, two other Nordic countries, Denmark and Sweden, announced they will also roll out digital passports that will not only allow citizens to travel but also dine out in restaurants and attend large in-person events like concerts and festivals. "It will be the extra passport that you will be able to have on your mobile phone that documents that you have been vaccinated," said Danish Finance Minister Morten Boedskov. Sweden's minister for digital development, Anders Ygeman, said his country hoped to be issuing its first electronic certificates in June.

Spain is also bullish on the health passport idea. "Vaccine certification is something we are going towards inevitably," said Foreign Minister Arancha Gonzalez during an interview on RNE national radio last month. "It will be a very important element to guarantee a safe return to mobility."

And at a meeting with the European Commission, Portugal's Interior Minister Eduardo Cabrita ventured that vaccine certification would be easier to manage than the current Covid-19 requirements. Certificates "should act as proof of security and do away with certain requirements at borders — in particular, the requirement for PCR tests," he said.

Cyprus is on the same wavelength. The Mediterranean island nation announced that it will abolish health requirements like testing and quarantine for travellers who could prove they had been vaccinated.

Poland also launched a digital vaccine passport last month. Citizens who get two doses of the vaccine receive a confirmation document with a unique QR code that is downloadable only from the traveler's personal public health account. A printed version is available to those who do not have smartphones. "The document will be the so-called passport of the vaccinated person, which will confirm that the person has been vaccinated and can use the rights to which vaccinated people are entitled," Anna Golawska, Poland's Deputy Minister of Health, told reporters.

If a country-by-country solution sounds scattershot and cumbersome, the World Health Organizaton (WHO) is also working on a vaccine certification solution that can roll out on a global scale. The WHO's position is that vaccine passports would be an improvement over current Covid-19 testing protocols and so-called immunity passports, which certify that someone has recovered from the illness and has antigens.

Since October, the WHO has been working with Estonia to develop a digital Covid-19 vaccination certificate using blockchain technology that they are calling a "smart yellow card," reported Reuters. The play on words is a 21st-century wink at the old-school paper-based International Certificate of Vaccination, more popularly known as the "yellow card," which has for decades provided world travellers with analog proof that they have been vaccinated against yellow fever.

[ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez]

Good news, 12 states in the US have issued BANS on Vaccine Passports:

Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Indiana, Florida, Georgia, Utah, Arizona, South Carolina,
Texas, Iowa, Alabama.

If you live in a red state that doesn't already have a ban on vaccine passports, write to your state legislators and your governor to ask them for it.

Making vaccine passports a partisan issue is a great way to defeat them, at least in the US.

[Christe Eleison]

Good news, 12 states in the US have issued BANS on Vaccine Passports:

Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Indiana, Florida, Georgia, Utah, Arizona, South Carolina,
Texas, Iowa, Alabama.

If you live in a red state that doesn't already have a ban on vaccine passports, write to your state legislators and your governor to ask them for it.

Making vaccine passports a partisan issue is a great way to defeat them, at least in the US.

Good idea! I was surprised not to see other Red states, like Oklahoma, Kentucky, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Nebraska, etc.

And if I am not mistaken, Wisconsin is trying to BAN it as well. They have a Republican legislature but a Democrat for Governor    Interesting situation. Their Governor has mentioned that if anything lands on his desk he will not sign it. I think they had  thousands of health care workers protesting forced vaccination.

By the way, a lot of protests are not being televised. And sometimes they work.

Supposedly Denmark had a ton of people protesting in front of Parliament for 9 straight days, making noise with pots & pans. At the end they got rid of all of the mandates, masks, etc. Not sure about Vaccine Passports...