Linux Shangrila

Started by james03, September 26, 2020, 07:45:40 PM

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TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: james03 on September 26, 2020, 07:45:40 PM
I found the distro that I love.  Artix Linux.  I'm running it with the Xfrce desktop and OpenRC init system.  You can also use it with Runit or System V init.

It also can come with Mate or Cinnamon (Gnome before it was ruined)  and KDE.
Are you still using it?

Also, it is "XFCE" I think, unless 2020 Artix was vastly different and using some unknown ghost project.

GNOME 2 was the peak.

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I'm also really liking Xfrce.  Seems to do everything I want with a lot less bloat.

Well, it has bloat, an "r".

I don't use a DE, but I keep one around just in case. I don't have the rodent infested one though.

GiftOfGod

Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


james03

QuoteAre you still using it?

No.  Computer crashed.  I got it repaired and had Artix with Cinnamon installed to try it out.  I've been on my old trusty Linux laptop and haven't gotten the Artix box set up the way I want it yet.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: james03 on December 24, 2021, 10:55:16 AM
QuoteAre you still using it?

No.  Computer crashed. 
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sure you know all about backing things up (if not then, now).

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I got it repaired
Really? How? What was wrong with it?

QuoteI've been on my old trusty Linux laptop and haven't gotten the Artix box set up the way I want it yet.

What do you have running on the laptop?

james03

Backed up files on a thumb drive.  So I survived, but that reminds me of a post I have to make.

Don't remember what the cause was, but it's fixed.  I have a Linux friendly computer shop I deal with and he got me straightened out. 

I think the trusty lap top is running some ancient Suse and KDE for the desktop.  It works fine, so I'm using it for now.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

TerrorDæmonum

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Quote from: james03 on December 27, 2021, 01:30:09 PM
Backed up files on a thumb drive.  So I survived, but that reminds me of a post I have to make.
That is good.

I have backups myself, but also for extra security, I have a tiny flash drive with the most important documentation and files on it that I keep in my wallet on my person.

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Don't remember what the cause was, but it's fixed.  I have a Linux friendly computer shop I deal with and he got me straightened out.
A computer shop. How quaint.

I used to do a little work for one. The owner called me for the more complicated jobs on higher end computers.

QuoteI think the trusty lap top is running some ancient Suse and KDE for the desktop.  It works fine, so I'm using it for now.

A stable Linux installation can really last a long time. When I built my computer, I had plans to use it for as long as possible, but the original operating system has been continuously updated all this time with no issue. Considering it is Fedora based, not some ultra-stable tested and verified system, it is quite remarkable.

james03

QuoteA computer shop. How quaint.

He's a good guy.  Has a shop and he'll build you a box like you want it.  Very affordable.  He also maintains networks at small businesses in town, like law firms, so he's actually doing very well.  But he really loves building computers and talking to me about Linux, so I get good service from him.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

TerrorDæmonum

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That is great.

The shop that I did some work for mostly did fixing up people's Windows issues and then Apple with a standard system. He could do more, but the business has changed a lot, so it was mostly getting money from older people with old computers.

I only did things like custom builds and fixing people's failed builds. He called me when he had something like that which wasn't in his normal workflow.

Quote from: james03 on December 27, 2021, 01:45:03 PM
Has a shop and he'll build you a box like you want it.  Very affordable.

The last few years must have been interesting for him.

I build my own computers, so paying someone else to do it wouldn't be my thing. But he sounds like a good person. It is rare I think that someone with that kind of care and interest in computers has a public business fixing other people's computers these days.

andy

I would introduce a following analogy:
- Conciliar Church of New Advent is like MS Windows
- FSSPX - OSX (they do have Unix kernel)
- SSPX R&R - Ubuntu
- Sedes - all non systemd distros
- and prots like Chromebooks
- east religions would be iPads
- Islam is more less mainframe computing - they still rule in certain industries

Having said that, i do use OSX and Ubuntu simultaneously. Started using Linux back in 1995.

Seriously though, why people have that big of a problem with systemd.



james03

Security concerns.  Eventually I'm moving over to Tails.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: james03 on December 27, 2021, 09:18:21 PM
Security concerns.  Eventually I'm moving over to Tails.

I have a drive with Tails on it.

I used to have a lot of live tools like that, but my life is much simpler now.

But keep in mind that Tails isn't really designed for a daily operating system. It can be used that way, but you'll find it was designed specifically for a use that makes it somewhat awkward at best for regular computing needs.

If systemd is a security concern, you must have a pretty advanced threat assessment for a specific situation. I wonder how posting on a forum using your real name and location squares with this kind of security need?

Are you a man of mystery and intrigue?

andy

Quote from: james03 on December 27, 2021, 09:18:21 PM
Security concerns.

While I dislike certain design decisions in systemd, security is probably least of my concerns. They patch it really fast, as it is the most popular middleware in Linux world. Not to mention, that it really takes a lot to take advantage of those vulnerabilities. The carrot must be big enough, to attract hackers. Well, I do not know how valuable or secret is data you keep on your machine, but if you do backups on thumb drives or off the shelf NAS ...

Also, Linux as such, even a most refined distro, does not guarantee ultimate security. A chain is as strong as the weakest link - the software we use and trust is so complex, that there is absolutely no guarantee that there are no backdoors in what we run.

TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: andy on December 28, 2021, 11:53:35 AM
A chain is as strong as the weakest link -

And almost always, this is the user.

PICNICs are the most common errors.

For systemd, I'm a philosophical person myself, but I try not to let the Unix Philosophy get in the way of getting things done. Sometimes, a monolith that works that I have no developmental role in creating is what we have.