"The problem with separate toys for girls and boys"

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QuoteThe problem with separate toys for girls and boys

By Rebecca Hains
FEBRUARY 27, 2015



Girls' toys. Boys' toys. To many parents, the ubiquity of separate color-coded shopping aisles feels natural, reflecting a belief in innate gender differences and discrete interests. Recently, however, campaigns such as Let Toys Be Toys and No Gender December have made international headlines for championing desegregated toy aisles, recommending reorganization by theme or interest instead. Rather than believing dolls and crafts are for girls while trucks and science kits are for boys, "we think all toys are for all children," explains Let Toys Be Toys campaigner Jo Jowers, who lives in England.

President Obama waded into the matter in December, when at a Toys for Tots event he suggested a T-ball set was an ideal gift for girls. "I'm just trying to break down these gender stereotypes," he said at the time.

"Children use toys to try on new roles, experiment, and explore interests," explains Susan Linn, executive director of the Boston-based Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood and a psychologist at Harvard Medical School. "Rigidly gendered toy marketing tells kids who they should be, how they should behave, and what they should be interested in"?—?an unhealthily prescriptive situation.

Recent research demonstrates today's toys are divided by gender at historically unprecedented levels. "There are now far fewer non-gendered items available for children than in any prior era," says Elizabeth Sweet, a postdoctoral scholar at the University of California at Davis?—?even fewer than 50 years ago, when gender discrimination was socially acceptable.

How can this be? The answer lies in significant media industry changes during the 1980s, when the Federal Communications Commission's television deregulation removed longstanding limitations on children's advertising and widespread consumer adoption of cable allowed media owners to target more narrowly segmented audiences than ever before. As a result, marketers suddenly viewed children as a segmentable, highly lucrative demographic after largely ignoring them for 50 years.

Perhaps it is unsurprising, then, that two of today's most successful companies?—?Disney, whose Princess brand is the No. 2 licensed property in the United States and Canada, and LEGO, which recently surpassed Mattel as the world's largest toy maker?—?were early adopters of the trend to meticulously segment the child market by gender in the late 1980s. The licensing success of Disney's The Little Mermaid in 1989 prompted several additional princess film releases in quick succession, positioning Disney as a formidable power in the girl market. Likewise, in 1988, LEGO debuted its "Zack the LEGO Maniac" campaign, squarely positioning itself as a boy brand. A year later, LEGO began tailoring its minifigs' historically gender-neutral faces to include lipstick and facial hair?—?clear gender markers.

The ripple effects of these monumental 1980s-era marketing changes are evident today. Now, once classically gender-neutral toys are produced in "boy" and "girl" versions: Radio Flyer wagons, Tinkertoys, Mega Bloks, Fisher-Price stacking rings, and everything in between come in "pinkwashed'' varieties, in hopes that families with children of each sex will buy twice the toys. Meanwhile, Disney Princess's record-breaking profits prompted a proliferation of princess items from competitors, and Disney bought Marvel and Lucasfilm, the Star Wars creator, to compete for the boy market. Similarly, LEGO competes for girls' purchasing power not through inclusivity but by offering separate, stereotypically girlish themes, like Disney Princess and LEGO Friends.

What does this mean for today's families? Lori Day, an educational consultant and psychologist in Newburyport and author of Her Next Chapter: How Mother-Daughter Book Clubs Can Help Girls Navigate Malicious Media, Risky Relationships, Girl Gossip, and So Much More, argues that children's play has been altered, with long-term consequences. "Boys and girls stop playing together at a much younger age than was developmentally typical until this recent gender segmentation," she says. "The resulting rigidly stereotyped gender roles are unhealthy for both males and females, who are actually more alike than different." Sweet concurs: "This kind of marketing has normalized the idea that boys and girls are fundamentally and markedly different from one another, and this very idea lies at the core of many of our social processes of inequality."



Parents can push back against these problems, however, by raising critically aware children. Jennifer Shewmaker, a psychology professor at Abilene Christian University in Abilene, Texas, and author of Sexualized Media Messages and Our Children: Teaching Kids to Be Smart Critics and Consumers, suggests: "When you see stereotyped advertisements, ask the child, 'What do you think about the way that depicts girls and boys? Is that how the boys and girls in your life act?' " Carolyn Danckaert, cofounder of Washington, D.C.-based empowerment resource site A Mighty Girl, adds, "When parents explain that some people think only girls or only boys are good at something but their family disagrees, children can recognize stereotypes for what they are."

Not all parents share such concerns, of course. Jo Paoletti, an American studies professor at the University of Maryland in College Park and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Boys From the Girls in America, attributes differing opinions to ongoing culture wars. "Adults who subscribe to more traditional, conservative gender roles see children's preferences for stereotypical clothing and toys as natural expressions of innate differences," Paoletti says. As such, Erin McNeill, founder and president of Watertown-based Media Literacy Now, advocates for integrating media literacy into the K-12 curriculum. "Some parents won't notice or be concerned about the gendering of products. It's important that all children have the opportunity to gain the critical thinking skills to understand how and why gendered ads target them," she says.


the anti gender stereotypes people annoy me... the brooklyn parents are always talkinh about when their boys want to wear pinnk clothes and play with dolls s if it's abragginh right. 

in general we gravitate toward toys that encourage open ended play... he has a few action figures but we tend to favor more stylized toys that could be anything he does have a waldorf doll they don't have much detail  we have a "mass kit" etc

a lot of the toys we have are gender specific because i can't pictire us having more children unless a miracle happems.  but this list mean more financial strain on big families
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dymphna17

What is the end result these people are looking for?  What is the benefit of gender neutrality?  I just don't get what the goal is here.
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Chestertonian

Quote from: dymphna17 on March 07, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
What is the end result these people are looking for?  What is the benefit of gender neutrality?  I just don't get what the goal is here.

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.. you can pass more on with another child.. a boy in general is not going to want to play with a huge collection of disney princess everything.... a girl is not going to want to play with all trains cars and superheroes

and apparently boys and girls are playing swparatrly at earlier ages then they used to despite that our culture hates that god created men and women differently
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This reminds me of a story that my aunt has told numerous times, of a Christmas when she and my dad were kids. Dad got a train set. Aunt got a lavish porcelain doll. Aunt cried, because she wanted a train set, too. :( I loved dolls when I was a kid, and my brother loved GI Joes and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, though I definitely think that we both had too many. We never did the hand-me-down toy thing. My sister's toys were hers, and mine were mine, though we were expected to share within reasonable limits. 

I do think the idea of formerly "gender neutral" toys becoming available in "boy" and "girl" versions is ridiculous, and I wouldn't buy into it. Once the kid is a little older (4-5) and begins developing his own interests, I would buy toys accordingly.
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Cesar_Augustus

There is something similar to that. Making action oriented products towards girls. Both in toys and series.


Limoncello

If the media wasn't pushing so hard for "transgender acceptance," or whatever, this wouldn't even be an issue. I guess for them, gender is all in external material possessions.

Growing up, I had my own girl toys like dolls and dress up stuff, but since my two older brothers and I were so close in age, we tended to all play with the same stuff. I had no problem playing with Matchbox cars and Legos. I even had some of my own Legos, and not the pink ones, although I don't think I would have minded having them. I just think that now people are so hyper-aware of gender differences. Not EVERY girl toy needs to be pink. I would have been a little bored by a t-ball set, though.

I guess if it's a marketing push causing this, it explains why I had a hard time as an adult finding a bicycle that didn't look like it was designed for Barbie.

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Quote from: Limoncello on March 07, 2015, 05:05:27 PM
If the media wasn't pushing so hard for "transgender acceptance," or whatever, this wouldn't even be an issue. I guess for them, gender is all in external material possessions.

Growing up, I had my own girl toys like dolls and dress up stuff, but since my two older brothers and I were so close in age, we tended to all play with the same stuff. I had no problem playing with Matchbox cars and Legos. I even had some of my own Legos, and not the pink ones, although I don't think I would have minded having them. I just think that now people are so hyper-aware of gender differences. Not EVERY girl toy needs to be pink. I would have been a little bored by a t-ball set, though.

I guess if it's a marketing push causing this, it explains why I had a hard time as an adult finding a bicycle that didn't look like it was designed for Barbie.

And Bic Pen for Her.

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Lego is singular, lego is plural.

legos is a misspelling of legolas.

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Limoncello

Lego is definitely not plural. I've never heard of such a thing.

dymphna17

Yes, but he's a man Limoncello.   It's a male toy so he should know.  /end sarcasm   :lol:
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Quote from: dymphna17 on March 07, 2015, 07:50:13 PM
Yes, but he's a man Limoncello.   It's a male toy so he should know.  /end sarcasm   :lol:

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How is the bic pen for women "for women," exactly?

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Quote from: Chestertonian on March 07, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: dymphna17 on March 07, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
What is the end result these people are looking for?  What is the benefit of gender neutrality?  I just don't get what the goal is here.

cost
.. you can pass more on with another child.. a boy in general is not going to want to play with a huge collection of disney princess everything.... a girl is not going to want to play with all trains cars and superheroes

and apparently boys and girls are playing swparatrly at earlier ages then they used to despite that our culture hates that god created men and women differently

Simple then. Buy decent second hand toys on eBay and sell again when you're done with them. You save Over 80% of the new price of toys.  Only things I have bought new recently is Nerf Guns and bullets.
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OCLittleFlower

If it's little things, I don't mind not being able to pass it on from our daughter to our son.  Big stuff, though?  We want to get a Power Wheels car, and getting the pink Barbie type one would probably make her happier (and even happier if there is such a thing as a Hello Kitty car) -- but then it wouldn't work for our son in a few years.
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Quote from: OCLittleFlower on March 08, 2015, 03:59:03 AM
If it's little things, I don't mind not being able to pass it on from our daughter to our son.  Big stuff, though?  We want to get a Power Wheels car, and getting the pink Barbie type one would probably make her happier (and even happier if there is such a thing as a Hello Kitty car) -- but then it wouldn't work for our son in a few years.

Yes, we are sticking with gender neutral stuff for the big items that I want to pass down, like playroom furniture, etc.  When we went to buy a bicycle for my daughter, she nearly had a fit in the bike shop when we told her she had to get a plain solid colored bicycle and not a pink & purple glittery one that she wanted.  I only want to buy one bicycle for that age range, and if we ever have a boy, he probably won't want a girly bike, so she had to settle for a plain red one.  The horror!!!