How is Pæniteo's name pronounced?

Started by Ben, February 08, 2013, 05:28:54 PM

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Ben

February 08, 2013, 05:28:54 PM
Pan-uh-tay-oh?

Magnificat

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February 08, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
I've been saying Pay-ni-tay-o

tmw89

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February 08, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
Pen (the thing with which you write)
Ih (like the biz sound of busy, only without a b or a z/s)
Tay (rhymes with the letter J)
Oh (as in "Oh I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?")

Disyllabic-trochaic.
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February 08, 2013, 06:13:32 PM
Pay-kneetsay-o
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February 08, 2013, 06:35:45 PM Last Edit: February 08, 2013, 07:02:42 PM by Mithrandylan
I thought what Bonaventure said.

Pay-(k)nee-tsay-o

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#5
February 08, 2013, 06:38:39 PM
Depends on the time period (as well as region and social class).  :P

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February 08, 2013, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: tmw89 on February 08, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
Pen (the thing with which you write)
Ih (like the biz sound of busy, only without a b or a z/s)
Tay (rhymes with the letter J)
Oh (as in "Oh I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?")

Disyllabic-trochaic.

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February 08, 2013, 09:20:19 PM
Quote from: tmw89 on February 08, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
Pen (the thing with which you write)
Ih (like the biz sound of busy, only without a b or a z/s)
Tay (rhymes with the letter J)
Oh (as in "Oh I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?")

Disyllabic-trochaic.

I thought the æ ligature took a long 'a' sound. E.g. Cælis is ch-ay-lis not ch-e (as in pen)-lis. :)
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#8
February 08, 2013, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: Magnificat on February 08, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
I've been saying Pay-ni-tay-o

Same here.  "Pen" kinda ignores the "æ."
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#9
February 09, 2013, 04:45:30 AM
If he doesn't come here and set the record straight then I'm sticking with Pan-uh-tay-oh.

Magnificat

#10
February 09, 2013, 12:20:56 PM
Quote from: Bonaventure on February 08, 2013, 06:13:32 PM
Pay-kneetsay-o

Now that I see this, I believe it is correct. I don't know what I was thinking the way I was saying it. The emphasis should be on the knee which invites the s in ts-i-o. Pay-KNEE-tsi-o

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#11
February 09, 2013, 03:17:43 PM
I always pronounced it roe-SAR-ee-um.
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#12
February 09, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
In the common ecclesiastical or roman pronunciation it's pen-EE-teh-o.

There's no "ts" in "teo," by the way, and the diphthong "ae" (and the "oe" as well) is read as a simple "eh" as in pen.
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#13
February 09, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
You could be right. The "ts" came so naturally to me when I read it though. As I read some other Latin words to test it out, most of them have a clean "t" and others come out "ts". It seems like most that come out as "ts" are before an i. Not every i though. Maybe my instinct for pronunciation is just terribly inconsistent lol. 

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February 10, 2013, 12:56:59 AM Last Edit: February 10, 2013, 12:59:17 AM by Pæniteo
Quote from: Ben on February 09, 2013, 04:45:30 AM
If he doesn't come here and set the record straight then I'm sticking with Pan-uh-tay-oh.

I have never said this word, and I do not think in sounds, so it is all theory to me.

However, æ, ?, and e are all pronounced the same in Ecclesiastical Latin.

It is common to find "e" replacing æ and ?, especially in Medieval Latin.

How I personally pronounce Latin is not worth using as the basis for any advice on specifics. I am aware of my accents.
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