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[Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« on: December 23, 2013, 11:06:22 PM »
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I wish you a merry end to Advent, and hope that your preparations have been good.

This post is an announcement to explain the new banning system, being implemented effective December 26th.

1st offense - Warning
2nd offense - 1 day ban
3rd offense - Warning
4th offense - 3 day ban
5th offense - 14 day Ban
6th offense - Perma-ban

After two months, your "ban level" will decrease by one.  For example, let us say you committed three offenses over the course of a month.  That would put you at a warning, leading to a 3 day ban.  If you have good behavior for two months after that, you will go back down, and your next offense will result in a 1 day ban.

As a courtesy, we will begin with all members at this new system, so whatever offenses you may have committed will not be included in this.

If you have any questions, post or PM here.
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 12:09:37 AM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 12:12:45 AM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 12:17:50 AM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 12:19:39 AM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Oh good Lord no.  :lol:  The method for announcing bans will remain constant, "Jayne has been banned for one week for being nice."

You will be able to figure from there, if you're that interested, why so and so was banned for such a time.
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 08:23:29 AM »
Forum,
I wish you a merry end to Advent, and hope that your preparations have been good.

This post is an announcement to explain the new banning system, being implemented effective December 26th.

1st offense - Warning
2nd offense - 1 day ban
3rd offense - Warning
4th offense - 3 day ban
5th offense - 14 day Ban
6th offense - Perma-ban

After two months, your "ban level" will decrease by one.  For example, let us say you committed three offenses over the course of a month.  That would put you at a warning, leading to a 3 day ban.  If you have good behavior for two months after that, you will go back down, and your next offense will result in a 1 day ban.

As a courtesy, we will begin with all members at this new system, so whatever offenses you may have committed will not be included in this.

If you have any questions, post or PM here.

When giving a warning, shouldn't the mods, from the very first warning, cite the forum rule(s) explicitly broken?

I am also thinking, if the second warning is not a repeat of the first type of offense, should not that be considered a first warning for that particular type of offense? 

This actually reflects how the Church has functioned in giving admonitions.


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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 04:09:27 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2013, 06:31:15 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?

Yeah, it should be 'they'.  :)


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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2013, 07:21:57 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?

Yeah, it should be 'they'.  :)

Using the singular "he" is grammatically correct. The use of "they" picked up steam when the feminist movement picked up steam.

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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2013, 07:30:59 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?

Yeah, it should be 'they'.  :)

Using the singular "he" is grammatically correct. The use of "they" picked up steam when the feminist movement picked up steam.

I thought Heinrich's question had an insidious connotation to it (i.e. that no females would ever be banned from SD) so before another fight broke out I tried to throw him off track by pulling his leg.


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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2013, 07:54:20 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

While "insidious" is a bit of a stretch, I wasnt really attempting start a war. I can understand why Jayne used "he": all the bans here, sans that saucy whore troll from TTA, have been of men. Mostly of, well, yeah, dudes.

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?

Yeah, it should be 'they'.  :)

Using the singular "he" is grammatically correct. The use of "they" picked up steam when the feminist movement picked up steam.

I thought Heinrich's question had an insidious connotation to it (i.e. that no females would ever be banned from SD) so before another fight broke out I tried to throw him off track by pulling his leg.
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 11:27:14 PM »
When you announce a ban, will you give the calculation of how the length was determined or will you simply say the length?

Length.  I'm wondering, though, what you mean by calculation?

Saying something like "X has been banned for 3 days since he committed 3 offenses over two months ago so he went down a level but then he did it again twice in the past week."

Why are you using the masculine pronoun "he"?

It is grammatically correct (or at least it was traditionally) to use "he" in cases of unspecified sex.  Also, it is statistically more likely for a person being banned from SD to be male.
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2013, 01:03:26 AM »
Lol thats cause you ladys are always complaining about us begind our backs :P
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2013, 04:32:52 AM »
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I wish you a merry end to Advent, and hope that your preparations have been good.

This post is an announcement to explain the new banning system, being implemented effective December 26th.

1st offense - Warning
2nd offense - 1 day ban
3rd offense - Warning
4th offense - 3 day ban
5th offense - 14 day Ban
6th offense - Perma-ban

After two months, your "ban level" will decrease by one.  For example, let us say you committed three offenses over the course of a month.  That would put you at a warning, leading to a 3 day ban.  If you have good behavior for two months after that, you will go back down, and your next offense will result in a 1 day ban.

As a courtesy, we will begin with all members at this new system, so whatever offenses you may have committed will not be included in this.

If you have any questions, post or PM here.

When giving a warning, shouldn't the mods, from the very first warning, cite the forum rule(s) explicitly broken?

I am also thinking, if the second warning is not a repeat of the first type of offense, should not that be considered a first warning for that particular type of offense? 

This actually reflects how the Church has functioned in giving admonitions.

I agree with this sentiment.

I also think, however, that the admin and mods should reserve the right to permaban someone sooner if it is obvious that they joined only to troll or spam the forum in someway.
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Re: [Announcement] Bans and their length, a new system
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2013, 08:20:45 AM »
Forum,
I wish you a merry end to Advent, and hope that your preparations have been good.

This post is an announcement to explain the new banning system, being implemented effective December 26th.

1st offense - Warning
2nd offense - 1 day ban
3rd offense - Warning
4th offense - 3 day ban
5th offense - 14 day Ban
6th offense - Perma-ban

After two months, your "ban level" will decrease by one.  For example, let us say you committed three offenses over the course of a month.  That would put you at a warning, leading to a 3 day ban.  If you have good behavior for two months after that, you will go back down, and your next offense will result in a 1 day ban.

As a courtesy, we will begin with all members at this new system, so whatever offenses you may have committed will not be included in this.

If you have any questions, post or PM here.

When giving a warning, shouldn't the mods, from the very first warning, cite the forum rule(s) explicitly broken?

I am also thinking, if the second warning is not a repeat of the first type of offense, should not that be considered a first warning for that particular type of offense? 

This actually reflects how the Church has functioned in giving admonitions.

I agree with this sentiment.

I also think, however, that the admin and mods should reserve the right to permaban someone sooner if it is obvious that they joined only to troll or spam the forum in someway.

I have gathered over time that people often drink while they type on forums. This doesn't help any. Such can appear to be trolls when they are just not thinking so straight while trying to have fun. In such cases they often deserve extra warnings before a permaban.
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